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Guess who's giving the invocation; at the inaugural?
Topic Started: Dec 17 2008, 12:17 PM (848 Views)
Frank_W
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If God cared that we trusted, then we wouldn't need to defend ourselves. God would do it.
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Dec 17 2008, 06:07 PM
I personally think God doesn't have anything to do with it, and that God couldn't care less, one way or the other. The minute God began caring one way or the other, God would become the Effect of something, rather than First Cause, and immediately cease to be God.

You may be referring to God the magician.

God the magician was invented by Ax and his friends to make them feel superior.

The In God We Trust God is the greater good.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Frank_W
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I can certainly trust in the greater good and the principles that this nation was founded upon, and I have no problem with "In God We Trust."

In fact, if we toss out, "In God We Trust," then maybe we should also toss out, "E Pluribus Unum." To hell with all of it. We don't need anymore of those teeming huddled masses yearning to breathe free. Our skyscrapers and railroads are built. Execute the illegals in the streets, burn any flag that isn't a flag of the United States, prevent anyone who isn't a natural born citizen from owning any kind of property or business, and announce to the world that we aren't taking anymore immigrants.

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AlbertaCrude
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Dec 17 2008, 05:57 PM
In God We Trust.

It got us to #1 on the top country list.

No. 1? In what? Team chestpounding or overbearing brashness?
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Jack Frost
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You HAVE to give O credit for trying to be inclusive. I don't think we have ever seen a politician of this color ilk. He is facing an economy, world, middle east, like no president has seen in my lifetime.

Shall we give him the benefit of the doubt for a few months?

EDIT: As to the GOD part, it doesn't matter. If she IS or she ISN'T, I don't think we will see any difference in the next 8 years. Lets put our faith in men and women.

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Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter; and with eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations.
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No JF, we can't do that. Much better to scoff and pick nits.



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AlbertaCrude
Dec 17 2008, 06:53 PM
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Dec 17 2008, 05:57 PM
In God We Trust.

It got us to #1 on the top country list.

No. 1? In what? Team chestpounding or overbearing brashness?
:shrug: Haven't seen much of that around here, AC. You seem to always bring this up, and it's pretty ugly of you to do so, and just as ugly as those who do the chestpounding. Neither one is very civilized, is it?
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Dec 17 2008, 06:58 PM
No JF, we can't do that. Much better to scoff and pick nits.

I don't think I have any nits?

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Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter; and with eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations.
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Frank_W
Dec 17 2008, 06:59 PM
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Dec 17 2008, 06:53 PM
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Dec 17 2008, 05:57 PM
In God We Trust.

It got us to #1 on the top country list.

No. 1? In what? Team chestpounding or overbearing brashness?
:shrug: Haven't seen much of that around here, AC. You seem to always bring this up, and it's pretty ugly of you to do so, and just as ugly as those who do the chestpounding. Neither one is very civilized, is it?
My apologies. I meant overbearing hubris.
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Frank_W
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I'm all for giving Obama the benefit of the doubt. I don't particularly like or dislike him, at the moment. I do think the press has given him a free pass, and spent an inordinate time ripping Sarah Palin apart and jeering at John McCain.

Also, Jack: The presidential term is 4 years. Not 8. Let's take things one term at a time, shall we?
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Frank_W
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Hubris?

Look: I'm proud of my country, you're proud of yours, and other citizens of other countries are proud of theirs. That's as it should be. I've lived in other countries and gotten along just fine. I personally don't spend much time wrapping myself in the flag, because most of the time, I find the citizens of my country to be a source of embarrassment.

Set me down in any modern country and I'll get along just fine. :shrug:
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Dec 17 2008, 05:30 PM
Rick Warren = bad choice

Heck, there should be no invocation. Just keep the whole thing secular.
Sorry, but over 90% of Americans believe in God...
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AlbertaCrude
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.. then why not have an ecumenical invocation including a priest, rabbi, imam and Native elder?
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AlbertaCrude
Dec 17 2008, 06:53 PM
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Dec 17 2008, 05:57 PM
In God We Trust.

It got us to #1 on the top country list.

No. 1? In what? Team chestpounding or overbearing brashness?

It's sort of an all-around title.

Based in good measure on founding priciples, and the growth and longevity of those principles.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Dec 17 2008, 07:16 PM
.. then why not have an ecumenical invocation including a priest, rabbi, imam and Native elder?

We have an efficient government, one guy can cover it.

The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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AlbertaCrude
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It's sort of an all-around title.

Based in good measure on founding priciples, and the growth and longevity of those principles.



Ah, I see. Not unlike Napoleon crowning himself emporer.
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Dec 17 2008, 07:20 PM
Ah, I see. Not unlike Napoleon crowning himself emporer.

Have you met Quirt?
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Jolly
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Dec 17 2008, 07:21 PM
AlbertaCrude
Dec 17 2008, 07:20 PM
Ah, I see. Not unlike Napoleon crowning himself emporer.

Have you met Quirt?
Quirt's not that short...not since he started his Viagra regimen...
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Bernard
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I don't have a problem with an invocation and it shouldn't come as any big surprise that this is a slap in the face to gays and lesbians, but for some reason--even though BO had no problem slighting us in the election season--I am a little surprised. I honestly thought he'd try a little harder. Maybe the gay community will finally wake up from their cool aid induced stupor.


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Shall we give him the benefit of the doubt for a few months?


After all the about faces, lies and deception? Eh. Maybe, but just a little. Just.


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AlbertaCrude
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Have you met Quirt?



No I haven't and I don't think he and I would would get along if we did meet. He's far too much a constitutional republocrat to my way of thinking.
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I'll say the same thing I said at WTF:

Awwwww - did the gay community get fooled by the Dems again? Did you REALLY think a black guy was going to be pro-gay?

Obviously, the right question to ask is not what his personal beliefs are, but what is politically better for him - who has the most votes and polictical power?

The left annointed and elected an opportunist. It doesn't mean he will be a bad president, but it was clear from day one that he will do what is in his own best interests.

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Mikhailoh
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By the way, Bernard - this was not in response to your posts, but someone else's over at WTF. It appears you trust him every bit as far as I do.
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AlbertaCrude
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Dec 17 2008, 07:18 PM
AlbertaCrude
Dec 17 2008, 07:16 PM
.. then why not have an ecumenical invocation including a priest, rabbi, imam and Native elder?

We have an efficient government, one guy can cover it.

The hell you say, that's not at all what I have been led to believe from this forum over the years.
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MS - you dont like John Williams?!?! :sword:
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Dec 17 2008, 06:02 PM
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Dec 17 2008, 05:57 PM
In God We Trust.

It got us to #1 on the top country list.

We didn't put that phrase in the pledge until the 50s, and some people think its been all down hill from there..
And, while we're at it, get rid of the Chaplaincy of the US Congress.

That's only been around since 1789. Been downhill since...

I'm just sayin...
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