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This Isn't Very Comforting
Topic Started: Dec 17 2008, 05:51 AM (222 Views)
QuirtEvans
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/16/health/16cancer.html?em

Not that "colonoscopy" and "comforting" belong in the same sentence ...
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Mikhailoh
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:veryangry: You have to go through all that for 60%?!?!?!

%$^%$#@#!


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Klaus
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I am fully confident that, by the time I am supposed to undergo colonoscopy, medical research will have advanced to a point where instead of colonscopy it is sufficient to do this:

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Mikhailoh
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Don't count on it.

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big al
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Please don't use this as an excuse not to get the recommended colonoscopy. I had one earlier this year and while the prep solution that I had to drink in copious quantities was not a gourmet treat, it wasn't all that bad, IMHO. The actual procedure was done under anesthesia or sedation (George, I'm not sure which is the right term) and I remember nothing of it.

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George K
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big al
Dec 17 2008, 06:22 AM
The actual procedure was done under anesthesia or sedation (George, I'm not sure which is the right term) and I remember nothing of it.
The whole issue of sedation vs. anesthesia is murky. I know what *I* mean by anesthesia, and I know what *I* mean by sedation, but other specialties have different perspectives (pardon me for using the word "perspective" in a thread about colonoscopy).

The term GI docs (and other guys) use is "Conscious Sedation." By my definition, "conscious" means "responsive" to questions. "Sedated" means calm, but awake. The GI guys like to use a combination of Versed (a drug like valium), because of its amnesic and calming properties. We use it in pre-op, and it's not unusual for patients, even if they've spoken to me or the surgeon to not remember anything (that's why we don't have discussions about the surgery after the pre-op's given). The other drug they use is fentanyl - a rapid acting potent narcotic. It's a good analgesic, lasts about an hour, and like all narcotics, has some sedative action on its own. This combo does a great job of having the patient hold still for the procedure, perhaps even snooze through it (so much for the "conscious" part), and not remember a thing.

This combo of drugs will not get you through surgery. That's what I do. In the war of sedatives and doses, if what the GI guys use is a .357 magnum, I come armed with a battleship. If your cardiovascular system won't handle the anesthetics, I can always paralyze you. :devilgrin:
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Mikhailoh
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They gave me double doses of demerol and versed an I was still wide awake. Nary a buzz even. I remember every stinking inch of my thankfully very clean colon.
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QuirtEvans
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I remember a small amount of discomfort at one point ... but other than that, I was out for it all (with the "conscious sedation" protocol).

I also had an upper GI a few weeks earlier, also with conscious sedation. I was concerned that I would gag ... the nurse told me I wouldn't, but that, if I did, I wouldn't remember it. I don't remember a thing about that one.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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RosemaryTwo
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The whole amnesia part seems a bit unfair.

A bad experience is still a bad experience, you just can't complain about it later.
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JBryan
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I wonder if you had a colonoscopy and an upper GI at the same time they would see each other.
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George K
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The GI guy could hold one scope up to each eye.
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Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
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George K
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Oh, I forgot the obligatory "what's the definition" joke.

Q: What's the definition of a proctoscope?

A: 12 inches of stainless steel with an arsehole at each end.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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