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IT Probably Won't Think This Is Criticism, Either
Topic Started: Dec 17 2008, 05:11 AM (589 Views)
QuirtEvans
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Newt Gingrich on the RNC's ads about Obama and Blagojevich:

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I was saddened to learn that at a time of national trial, when a president-elect is preparing to take office in the midst of the worst financial crisis in over seventy years, that the Republican National Committee is engaged in the sort of negative, attack politics that the voters rejected in the 2006 and 2008 election cycles.

The recent web advertisement, "Questions Remain," is a destructive distraction. Clearly, we should insist that all taped communications regarding the Senate seat should be made public. However, that should be a matter of public policy, not an excuse for political attack.

In a time when America is facing real challenges, Republicans should be working to help the incoming President succeed in meeting them, regardless of his Party.

From now until the inaugural, Republicans should be offering to help the President-elect prepare to take office.

Furthermore, once President Obama takes office, Republicans should be eager to work with him when he is right, and, when he is wrong, offer a better solution, instead of just opposing him.

This is the only way the Republican Party will become known as the "better solutions" party, not just an opposition party. And this is the only way Republicans will ever regain the trust of the voters to return to the majority.

This ad is a terrible signal to be sending about both the goals of the Republican Party in the midst of the nation's troubled economic times and about whether we have actually learned anything from the defeats of 2006 and 2008.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Klaus
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What kind of obsession do you have with IT of late?
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QuirtEvans
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Instead of discussing it as a general matter, let's look at this specific instance.

A day or two ago (or something like that), I posted a story about McCain being critical of the RNC for the Blagojevich/Obama ads.

IT jumped in and spent pages debating me, Moonbat, OT, and others as to whether McCain was being critical of the RNC, or not.

This is another conservative political figure, being critical of the RNC, in even stronger language, on the very same topic.

Seems fair game to me.

So, whether you're right or not, this was not the thread in which that point is valid.

I'll think about the more general nature of your point, and whether there's any truth to it.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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That is quite unambiguously critical.
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QuirtEvans
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By the way, what the heck is that banner ad at the bottom of the page? It links to an incredibly weird site.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Klaus
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QuirtEvans
Dec 17 2008, 05:19 AM
Instead of discussing it as a general matter, let's look at this specific instance.

A day or two ago (or something like that), I posted a story about McCain being critical of the RNC for the Blagojevich/Obama ads.

IT jumped in and spent pages debating me, Moonbat, OT, and others as to whether McCain was being critical of the RNC, or not.

This is another conservative political figure, being critical of the RNC, in even stronger language, on the very same topic.

Seems fair game to me.

So, whether you're right or not, this was not the thread in which that point is valid.

I'll think about the more general nature of your point, and whether there's any truth to it.
I for one haven't read the previous thread about the RNC, and hence I find it quite irritating to start a thread like this - all the more so, since a title like that is likely to result in yet another trainwreck of insults rather than an interesting discussion.

I know that IT can be a pain in the ass difficult to understand, but you make his contributions look more important than they really are :wink:
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Mikhailoh
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This one was clearly critical, the other one was not. Big deal.
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Dec 17 2008, 06:12 AM
This one was clearly critical, the other one was not as clear while still being critical. Big deal.



Fixed it for you, Mik.


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You may interpret it that way if you wish, OT. I did not and it was not explicit. IT's interpretation is just as valid, if not more, than your own. You don't seem to see any challenge to the Obama camp whatsoever.
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You don't seem to see any challenge to the Obama camp whatsoever.


How do you get that from what I've posted?



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Klaus
Dec 17 2008, 05:33 AM
I know that IT can be a pain in the ass difficult to understand, but you make his contributions look more important than they really are :wink:
Indeed. Much how the consequences of a rapidly expanding gas satisfy the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
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Klaus
Dec 17 2008, 05:15 AM
What kind of obsession do you have with IT of late?
Must be sublimated homoeroticism.
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Mikhailoh
Dec 17 2008, 09:23 AM
You may interpret it that way if you wish, OT. I did not and it was not explicit. IT's interpretation is just as valid, if not more, than your own. You don't seem to see any challenge to the Quirt camp whatsoever.
There, I fixed it for you.
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Of course that is criticism. What you posted the other day was not criticism, and it certainly wasn't a DEFENSE of Obama as you claimed.
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OK, so you're not COMPLETELY untethered from reality.

Just mostly.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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I am concerned when someone with a sublimated homoerotic obsession with me starts talking about tethering.
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Dec 17 2008, 11:01 AM
I am concerned when someone with a sublimated homoerotic obsession with me starts talking about tethering.
:spit:
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ivorythumper
Dec 17 2008, 11:01 AM
I am concerned when someone with a sublimated homoerotic obsession with me starts talking about tethering.
I would be, too, if you knew someone like that. Of course, the odds that you'd be able to tell are quite small.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Quirt, I really don't think you need to bring size into this....



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You gonna give him a reach around while you're at it, OT?
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:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
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QuirtEvans
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You keep having these homoerotic fantasies, IT. You really ought to talk to someone about it.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Geez, IT, you're pretty sensitive about that size issue.



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Well, he did go to college so he doesn't have to carry bricks around on his pecker all day. :whome:
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