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I guess there are still some racists
Topic Started: Nov 15 2008, 04:31 PM (2,093 Views)
Jolly
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kathyk
Nov 16 2008, 06:58 AM
Again, George, those very few isolated incidents regarding McCain are nothing compared to what is going on here. There is a huge wave of hatred sweeping the country amongst a small segment of society. We all have a moral obligation to quell it by voicing disapproval.

Edit: From what I can see, story about the bus was never confirmed, which is no doubt why the MSM never picked up on it. Like the girl who pretended to be beat up by an Obama supporter, it could just as easily have been perpetrated by a McCain supporter to try to stoke outrage. And, I have no idea what pictures you're talking about, but I find it really sad and disheartening that you are attempting to minimize the import of this current trend.
An assassin's bullets, by their very nature, are isolated incidents.

There are over 300 million people in this country. We've had more than one President killed with much smaller populations. Therefore, it would stand to reason we've got more nutcases than ever before.

Obama, or any other person seeking the Presidency, knows the risks going in. You minimize risk, have the best people in the world protect you, and hope nothing ever happens. But...

If a man doesn't mind if he lives or dies, he can kill anybody in the world.

Anybody...
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Piano*Dad
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No, Jolly, I will not leave the country. But, if anything horrible happens to him, you will have his blood on your hands for your hateful complacency.


I'm sorry, Kathy, but this is a truly stupid non-sequitur.

What Kenny said on the last page is rather appropriate. This thread was not started in a manner that would elicit either interesting or meaningful conversation. An article was presented so we could all emote over it ... or in this case be accused of enabling assassination if we don't cry and beat our breasts just because Jack or some other poster puts out an article to initiate a thread, and does so without any invitation to the rest of us to have a meaningful conversation.

Then the whole thread degenerates into high moral dudgeon and petty sniping over "you said this" or "you failed to say that, so you are responsible for all evil in the world." Grow up, people.
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Larry
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No, Jolly, I will not leave the country. But, if anything horrible happens to him, you will have his blood on your hands for your hateful complacency.


I'll let Jolly speak for himself - but as far as I'm concerned you can kiss my ass. You are as batty as they come. No one here is "complacent". No one here has wished any harm come to anyone. YOUR side of the aisle however, has wished harm, death, you name it, to a whole list of republicans and conservatives.

If we follow your simple minded reactionary logic, then you have the blood of millions of Iraqis on your hands. You have the blood of millions of Vietnamese and Cambodians on your hands. And, you have the blood of untold millions of infants on your hands.

There are racists in this world, idiot. They are a plague on society. There are liberals in this world also - and to tell you the truth, the actions of people like you are much more dangerous than the small number of people who are fanatical morons because of their racial extremism.
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Larry
Nov 16 2008, 10:10 AM
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No, Jolly, I will not leave the country. But, if anything horrible happens to him, you will have his blood on your hands for your hateful complacency.


I'll let Jolly speak for himself - but as far as I'm concerned you can kiss my ass. You are as batty as they come. No one here is "complacent". No one here has wished any harm come to anyone. YOUR side of the aisle however, has wished harm, death, you name it, to a whole list of republicans and conservatives.

If we follow your simple minded reactionary logic, then you have the blood of millions of Iraqis on your hands. You have the blood of millions of Vietnamese and Cambodians on your hands. And, you have the blood of untold millions of infants on your hands.

There are racists in this world, idiot. They are a plague on society. There are liberals in this world also - and to tell you the truth, the actions of people like you are much more dangerous than the small number of people who are fanatical morons because of their racial extremism.
Amen. I just got back from a wonderful brunch at some friends' place. Best french toast on God's green earth. I cannot believe this thread still lives.
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Nov 16 2008, 10:13 AM
Best french toast on God's green earth.
Raison cinnamon?
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Texas toast, done just so, and evidently cooked in a ton of butter.
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George K
Nov 16 2008, 10:58 AM
Raison d'ętre
If I didn't already have one, it would be a reasonable substitute. Great stuff.
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I'll let Jolly speak for himself - but as far as I'm concerned you can kiss my ass. You are as batty as they come. No one here is "complacent". No one here has wished any harm come to anyone. YOUR side of the aisle however, has wished harm, death, you name it, to a whole list of republicans and conservatives.


Don't worry about Kathy too much. She's kinda like that aunt or first cousin that exists in everyone's family, crazy as a waltzing pissant, but lovable in her own, somewhat unique way.

Just don't ask them to say the blessing at family meals, along with keeping them away from sharp objects and table corners.
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kathy's a nice, loving woman... very smart and interesting.. also passionate.

it takes all types
it behooves me to behold
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kathyk
Nov 16 2008, 06:43 AM
But, if anything horrible happens to him, you will have his blood on your hands for your hateful complacency.

Honestly, it makes me wonder which of you are secretly hoping it will happen.
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Or failing medication, a full frontal lobotomy.
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Larry
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apple
Nov 16 2008, 01:40 PM
kathy's a nice, loving woman... very smart and interesting.. also passionate.

it takes all types
Hitler was passionate also. Probably very smart, and possibly quite interesting. I hear he loved his cat.

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apple
Nov 16 2008, 01:40 PM
kathy's a nice, loving woman... very smart and interesting.. also passionate.

it takes all types

Makes me appreciate the value of a limited edition.

Now that I wrote that I wonder if you ever made an LTD.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Nov 16 2008, 08:33 AM
It would be a catastrophe for this nation were any physical harm ever to come to Obama. Nobody here thinks otherwise. It would be a very, very, VERY bad thing for loyal opposition Republicans were any harm ever to come to him, heaven forbid. Think about the implications for a second. He is my president (or will be shortly), even though I disagree with him on virtually everything everything.


Thank you, Lindy for having the decency and cajones to say.

WASHINGTON — The Secret Service would not comment or provide the number of cases they are investigating. But since the Nov. 4 election, law enforcement officials have seen more potentially threatening writings, Internet postings and other activity directed at Obama than has been seen with any past president-elect, said officials aware of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the issue of a president's security is so sensitive.
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:rolleyes2:
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kathyk
Nov 16 2008, 05:13 PM
the issue of a president's security is so sensitive.

Maybe it would be better if we all kept quiet about this.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Yeah, well. . . there are plenty of nuts, and an abundance of degrees of nutiness.

There might even be those that way down deep, hope something might happen. If it did, it would give justification to outrage, someone or some group to hate. Some people just need to hate, and seem a bit lost without it.
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If anything happens to President Obama I will lay the blame squarely at the feet of people like Kathyk for agitating about the possibility of his assassination.
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I suppose it was a mistake for ME to post this article. I disagree strenuously with Mik--i think it IS relevant and worth sharing. Unlike Mik, i did not think it was predictable--but I can be a bit optimistic.

I think the thread would have taken off in a very different direction if George had posted the link instead of me. It's a shame that the personalities here got in the way of a genuine response to the awful stuff described in the article. JB, thanks for acknowledging that much. It wasn't my intent to do anything more than that.

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Want to roll your eyes over this one, Dewey?

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kathyk
Nov 16 2008, 07:14 PM
Want to roll your eyes over this one, Dewey?

Brand new black church burned to the ground morning after election
So sad.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/us/17land.html?hp


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Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter; and with eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations.
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Dewey
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I'll tell you what I want to do, kathy. I want to go back in time and not post the eye roll, and leave the words I'd originally typed in its place.

But so often in life, there are some things that are best left unsaid. You should try it more often yourself.
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You know what. Sometimes I think things need to be said, even though I might not be well liked for saying them.

One thing you won't find me doing is insulting and belittling people. But, I will challenge wrong headed ideas.
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Dewey
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It's one thing to not be liked for speaking uncomfortable truth. It's another thing to not be liked for speaking nonsense and smearing the character of everyone around you with untrue insults. It's yet a third thing to be able to discern the difference, or that there's actually any difference at all, between the first two.
"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685.

"Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous

"Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011

I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14
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