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A prediction, Pt II
Topic Started: Aug 8 2008, 06:54 AM (668 Views)
Larry
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Daniel
Aug 8 2008, 02:20 PM
Fing nut-cases want to drill off Florida from one end to the other. Do it and turn it into a oil slick/ cesspool.

I was born in Florida in 1967. Most of you reading this have no idea how much environmental damage has been done to that state since that time.

But just go ahead and finish it off. It will be worth it x Fing years from now when the price of gas goes down- oh that's right, not at all.

But the oil companies and people who own oil company stock want it, and all the other leases they're not using.

So go ahead. What can go wrong? Idiots.

Daniel, your knowledge about oil wells and the rate of pollution they may or may not cause is about as ignorant as your knowledge of social security.

The truth is Daniel, there is virtually no spillage of oil from *any* of the oil platforms. None.

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Kincaid
Aug 8 2008, 11:24 AM
Daniel
Aug 8 2008, 10:31 AM
Daniel
Aug 8 2008, 10:20 AM
Fing nut-cases want to drill off Florida from one end to the other. Do it and turn it into a oil slick/ cesspool. 

I was born in Florida in 1967.  Most of you reading this have no idea how much environmental damage has been done to that state since that time.

But just go ahead and finish it off.  It will be worth it x Fing years from now when the price of gas goes down- oh that's right, not at all.

But the oil companies and people who own oil company stock want it, and all the other leases they're not using. 

So go ahead.  What can go wrong?  Idiots.

And I think there is a reason why there was a Presidential ban on it and there is a reason why there is a Congressional ban on it.

But I'm "hysterical." Sorry but your response seems ignorant to me.

Big Al,
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I think I'm quite aware of the spills that sparked the offshore oil drill ban.

I'm also aware that since those days there is a tremendous safety record with the current platforms.

So, your opinion seems outdated and unfounded to me.

In December 2000, EPA issued a final rule for effluent limitations guidelines and standards for off-shore oil and gas drilling operations.

The spill prevention, control, and countermeasure plans for these facilities got revamped in March 2007.

A myriad of partnerships between the U.S. Coast Guard, EPA, OSHA and NOAA have been formed to monitor offshore drilling facilities, prepare guidance documents for both worker and environmental safety, and basically increase the hell out of monitoring and recordkeeping requirements for these facilities so that there are fewer spills, and the ones that do happen are dealt with very quickly.

There are plenty of other environmental issues related to off-shore drilling, but the old-school complaints don't hold much water these days.
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
In spite of the environmentalist whacko left who claimed the platforms would wipe sea life off the planet, it has turned out that the oil platforms are teeming with life, and make wonderful habitats for sea life.

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Hey, a find could be just around the corner!

Just ask these guys:

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Isn't that Frank driving? :lol2:

I'm not going to say who the others are :leaving:

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QuirtEvans
Aug 8 2008, 10:47 AM
I saw something yesterday from one analyst who said that, by October, the price of oil could be $100 a gallon. Or, he said, equally likely, it could be $150 a gallon. We just don't know. That seems to be the best answer.

You *must* have meant "per barrel". :blink:
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phykell
Aug 8 2008, 05:29 PM
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Isn't that Frank driving? :lol2:

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I'm no expert but I have experienced the [non] pollution caused by drilling and producing oil and natural gas. I have travelled the east coast of Scotland (up through the Shetlands) and the west coast of Norway. Both were still pristine coastlines.

Oh, and a map of the North Sea oildfields:

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So I'm sure the US coastline could be drilled too without polluting the coasts.

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Aqua Letifer
Aug 8 2008, 11:42 AM
Kincaid
Aug 8 2008, 11:24 AM
Daniel
Aug 8 2008, 10:31 AM
Daniel
Aug 8 2008, 10:20 AM
Fing nut-cases want to drill off Florida from one end to the other. Do it and turn it into a oil slick/ cesspool. 

I was born in Florida in 1967.  Most of you reading this have no idea how much environmental damage has been done to that state since that time.

But just go ahead and finish it off.  It will be worth it x Fing years from now when the price of gas goes down- oh that's right, not at all.

But the oil companies and people who own oil company stock want it, and all the other leases they're not using. 

So go ahead.  What can go wrong?  Idiots.

And I think there is a reason why there was a Presidential ban on it and there is a reason why there is a Congressional ban on it.

But I'm "hysterical." Sorry but your response seems ignorant to me.

Big Al,
:lol:

I think I'm quite aware of the spills that sparked the offshore oil drill ban.

I'm also aware that since those days there is a tremendous safety record with the current platforms.

So, your opinion seems outdated and unfounded to me.

In December 2000, EPA issued a final rule for effluent limitations guidelines and standards for off-shore oil and gas drilling operations.

The spill prevention, control, and countermeasure plans for these facilities got revamped in March 2007.

A myriad of partnerships between the U.S. Coast Guard, EPA, OSHA and NOAA have been formed to monitor offshore drilling facilities, prepare guidance documents for both worker and environmental safety, and basically increase the hell out of monitoring and recordkeeping requirements for these facilities so that there are fewer spills, and the ones that do happen are dealt with very quickly.

There are plenty of other environmental issues related to off-shore drilling, but the old-school complaints don't hold much water these days.

:yawn:

Hopefully they'll perform better than FEMA. Of course, all they'd have to do to perform better than FEMA is to show up.


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Larry
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I thought you said you were leaving.
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What you don't seem to get is that most of the larger oil deposits are going to be drilled anyway, by foreign interests, in international waters just a few miles further out than the proposed sites. At least with us drilling we can be assured of tighter enviromnmental controls.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Aug 9 2008, 09:09 PM
What you don't seem to get is that most of the larger oil deposits are going to be drilled anyway, by foreign interests, in international waters just a few miles further out than the proposed sites. At least with us drilling we can be assured of tighter enviromnmental controls.

:yes: Absolutely correct.
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I think the drilling is just one aspect of the whole environmental impact of oil though. I was at a garage having my motorcycle MOT'ed (statutory, yearly road-worthiness check) and the guy was telling me about the ridiculous amount of paperwork he has to do just to sell fuel in the UK due to the Labour Government and European Union bureaucracy. Anyway, he goes on to say that now he sells a certain amount of fuel, he has to have his fuel vapour collected by the local refinery. Apparently, the truck arrives, collects the vapour, takes it all the way back to the refinery, and simply releases it into the atmosphere. This happens all over the UK as well - I wonder if there's any environmental impact as a result?

Of course, I can't complain - I was there to get my bike on the road, which I only ride for pleasure rather than utility.

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it's animals are treated. - Ghandhi

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Congrats on getting your bike back on the road, Phykell! :thumb:
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Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!"
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