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An American in Canada
Topic Started: Aug 7 2008, 01:51 PM (553 Views)
AlbertaCrude
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kenny
Aug 7 2008, 06:21 PM

You mean I can't wear shorts, tank top and flip flops all winter?

Sure you can, just make sure you wear a toque to keep your mullet warm.
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John D'Oh
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kenny
Aug 7 2008, 08:36 PM
sue
Aug 7 2008, 04:22 PM
kenny
Aug 7 2008, 05:21 PM
Wait a minute.

They told me the winter weather in London Ontario is just like it is here at the beach in Southern California?

You mean I can't wear shorts, tank top and flip flops all winter? :weeping:

Dearest Kenny, that's Vancouver you're thinking about. :cool:

But but but. . . the Uni Recruitment Officer said . . . :cool2: :weeping:

Did they mention the draft?
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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kenny
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John D'Oh
Aug 7 2008, 04:40 PM
kenny
Aug 7 2008, 08:36 PM
sue
Aug 7 2008, 04:22 PM
kenny
Aug 7 2008, 05:21 PM
Wait a minute.

They told me the winter weather in London Ontario is just like it is here at the beach in Southern California?

You mean I can't wear shorts, tank top and flip flops all winter? :weeping:

Dearest Kenny, that's Vancouver you're thinking about. :cool:

But but but. . . the Uni Recruitment Officer said . . . :cool2: :weeping:

Did they mention the draft?

Dear, you better be talking about beer.
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JBryan
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I am the grey one
I think he is talking about the cold wind.
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Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

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VPG
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Kenny, I have been to lunch or dinner with Canadians and laid money on the table and had my friends grab me by the arm and tell me I'm spoiling them. Ask any waitperson , Canadians are not cheap, they just do not believe in tipping.
I will now stand by to be pummeled, I will not fight back, because I love Canada.
I'M NOT YELLING.........I'M ITALIAN...........THAT'S HOW WE TALK!


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Red Rice
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Yeah, my Canadian associates look at me like I'm nuts when I tip over 10%.
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

- Cecil Lewis
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Riley
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sue
Aug 7 2008, 08:01 PM
John D'Oh
Aug 7 2008, 04:53 PM
The funny thing about Toronto is that the jokes about it start pretty much at the city limits. We were only 90 miles away and the locals talked about the place with real 'feeling', if you catch my drift.

^_^ I didn't know that!

Actually, I didn't either.

Must be because I live in the 'core 905 area' as dol calls it. ^_^
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Riley
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Red Rice
Aug 7 2008, 09:37 PM
Yeah, my Canadian associates look at me like I'm nuts when I tip over 10%.

They must be from Toronto. *snicker*

(How'd I do dol, sue and AC?)
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kenny
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http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g153339-....Etiquette.html

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Tipping
Gratuities are seldom included in Canadian restaurants. It is customary to tip 15% on the total bill before tax, 20% for exceptional service. Many restaurants may charge an automatic 15% gratuity for larger groups. This is up to the individual establishment but is usually applicable to groups of 8 or more. Some restaurants also "auto-grat" groups from countries that don't normally tip.

A "tip" for calculating the appropriate tip at a restaurant is simply to multiply the 5% GST (Goods and Services Tax) amount shown on the bill by three--three times 5% is 15%.

It is also a good idea to tip in hotels. Tipping at hotels does not stop with the hotel staff that brings baggage to a guest room. For example, if the valet service is used to park a car, it is customary to leave a tip. If you are in and out with your vehicle several times a day, many valets will refuse a tip each time. When they refuse, it is a nice touch to leave a little extra on their next tip.

It is also appreciated when a tip is left for your hotel room attendant. One idea is to write 'Thank You' on a notepad and leave the tip there. Also, if the hotel concierge does something extra, such as securing theatre tickets for you it is the usual practice to leave a tip for that service.

Tipping is also customary for other service providers such as hairdressers, manicurists, aestheticians and taxi drivers. In these cases the percentage of tip is really up to the individual, but 10% minimum is common.

In some tourist destinations, "tips jars" have started appearing in places that provide counter service -- coffee shops, ice cream shops, cafeterias etc. , and even in some retail stores. Foreign visitors who are unaccustomed to Canada may feel that this means that Canadians would normally provide a tip, but that is not so. It is not necessary to tip for counter service, and it is definitely not customary to tip the clerk in retail stores. Whether you put money in such a "tips jar" is entirely your choice, and you will not be being rude if you choose not to.

Aside from situations in which a gratuity is charged by the establishment (noted above), remember that tipping is your choice. It is common to tip in restaurants, but it is not required. It is not as common for other service providers (hairdressers, manicurists, etc...); again it is a choice.

Overall, servers/wait staff are not paid very well in Canada and many of them rely on tips. However, tipping is up to the customer. Sometimes the service is worth a tip, but other times it is not.

If you have a bad restaurant experience, however, many people — especially those in the food service industry — feel quite strongly that refusing to tip is not the best way to respond. If food is bad, why should the server be punished by no tip? If the service is slow because the kitchen is slow, it is unfair to not tip. If a server is rude to you, you should do more than just withhold a tip. If your experience was so poor that you are considering not leaving any tip, consider speaking to a manager instead.

Most managers want to know about problems so they have an opportunity to make things better for their customers. That could extend to offering you a free meal, which is a much better solution. Of course, complaints about a dish which you ate (even though you didn't like it) lack credibility. So if the food is bad, tell your server (or, if necessary, the manager) about it immediately.
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blondie
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FYI .. Americans tip better than Canadians. That's b/c most are off center.

It's electricity here in Alberta.

Yes, we wear shorts in winter. We're pretty good at stripping down in the snow too. Come taste a Chinook and experience going from -18 to +18C in 24 hours. That will shake your mullet.

We always tip 15%+. Is there anything wrong with that?
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Red Rice
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Riley
Aug 7 2008, 05:57 PM
Red Rice
Aug 7 2008, 09:37 PM
Yeah, my Canadian associates look at me like I'm nuts when I tip over 10%.

They must be from Toronto. *snicker*

Actually, you're right! Practically all the Canadian business associates I've met are from Toronto. I know enough about Canada not to assume that they're representive of all Canucks.

I did meet a woman from Newfoundland recently. Her name was Dina. Gorgeous girl, but I couldn't understand a word she was saying. :P
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

- Cecil Lewis
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kenny
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Canuks:
Is this a word I should not use, seriously?


Dictionary
Canuck |kəˈnək|
noun informal
a Canadian, esp. a French Canadian (chiefly used by Canadians themselves and often derogatory in the U.S.).
ORIGIN apparently from Canada .
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ivorythumper
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
I wonder if it's like "Yank" -- an American can use it safely but when ferners use it is sounds derogatory.
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dolmansaxlil
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Tipping- my standard tip is 20%. Almost everyone else I know tips 15%. When people don't tip, or don't tip well even though they got good service, I think they're being really rude.

Canuck - doesn't bother me in the least. There's an NHL team called the Canucks, so what's to get bent about?
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John D'Oh
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ivorythumper
Aug 8 2008, 03:46 AM
I wonder if it's like "Yank" -- an American can use it safely but when ferners use it is sounds derogatory.

The reason for that is that when foreigners use it they invariably prefix it with the word 'bloody'.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Riley
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kenny
Aug 7 2008, 08:21 PM
You mean I can't wear shorts, tank top and flip flops all winter? :weeping:

You can, just don't let lb1 see you. :D
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John D'Oh
Aug 7 2008, 02:18 PM
Electricity is known as 'hi-dro'. I'm not sure why, maybe 'dro' is French for 'voltage'.

The French word for 'mph' is 'km/h'. The police routinely drive behind American visitors with their lights flashing and sirens blaring as a mark of respect.

:lol:
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