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Topic Started: Aug 7 2008, 03:39 AM (187 Views)
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A homage to Salvador Dali?



(by the way, is it "a homage" or "an homage"?)
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Frank_W
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I would say, "an homage." In the word, "homage," the first sound is the vowel sound of "O" as in the word, "rock."

However, I have a hard time with "an historical event." The "h" in "historical" is a consonant sound -- a hard "h," so to precede it by "an," seems totally wrong. English is messed up... :shrug:
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Frank_W
Aug 7 2008, 07:02 AM
I would say, "an homage." In the word, "homage," the first sound is the vowel sound of "O" as in the word, "rock."

However, I have a hard time with "an historical event." The "h" in "historical" is a consonant sound -- a hard "h," so to precede it by "an," seems totally wrong. English is messed up... :shrug:

Especially because we're not consistent about the use of "an" before an "h" sound.

Let's even keep the first syllable the same. You wouldn't say "an" histamine response ... you'd say "a" histamine response.

So I guess it's one of those wonderful exceptions in the English language.
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"an homage" -> 877,000 google results
"a homage" -> 732,000 google results

Almost a draw.

"an historical" -> 4,230,000 google results
"a historical" -> 13,500,000 google results

Here the majority prefers "a" over "an".
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Don't do a GIS for "an hero." :unsure:
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Aug 7 2008, 04:03 AM

Especially because we're not consistent about the use of "an" before an "h" sound.

Let's even keep the first syllable the same. You wouldn't say "an" histamine response ... you'd say "a" histamine response.

So I guess it's one of those wonderful exceptions in the English language.

This is one of my favorite rules!

It's entirely phonetic and not at all based on grammar!

The "consonant rule" for remembering to use a/an is only a guide. The only reason there are two words to choose from is to give you a choice. What provides the easiest transition to the next word? THAT is how you make your decision.

For example, British folks tend to not pronounce h's as much as we do, so they may say something like "an historic community." However, we here in Amurikuh DO pronounce the "h". It's "a historic community" for us.

This really only tricks people up in the case of abbreviations and acronymns.

For example, you'd say "a NAFTA agreement" because NAFTA is a word; it starts with a closed "n" sound.

BUT, you would say "an NFL agreement" because NFL starts with a different sound.
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That's pretty cool to know....BUT most Brits I know also pronounce the 'h' in 'historical'. I tend to think of Cockney accents when I hear dropped h's.

On a side note: does anyone else pronounce the 'h' in 'homage'? I always have....???
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:lol: I love this place.

A silly picture morphs into a thread on grammar.

(no, I don't pronounce the 'h' in homage)
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So then, is it "Aks a homey" or "Aks an homey"?
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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sue
Aug 7 2008, 11:31 AM
:lol: I love this place.

A silly picture morphs into a thread on grammar.

(no, I don't pronounce the 'h' in homage)

Yeah, but see, that's not what Kant was about. The concept of "freedom" was indeed knowable because it can be found within moral laws that do not restrict free will. That's the argument he was using.
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Aug 7 2008, 09:35 PM
Yeah, but see, that's not what Kant was about. The concept of "freedom" was indeed knowable because it can be found within moral laws that do not restrict free will. That's the argument he was using.

I don't agree at all. As Hildegard von Bingen says in her Ordo Virtutum, the Virtues take turns identifying and describing themselves while the Devil occasionally interrupts and expresses opposing views and insults.
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sue
Aug 7 2008, 02:31 PM
:lol: I love this place.

A silly picture morphs into a thread on grammar.

(no, I don't pronounce the 'h' in homage)

Yeah, but you spell hum(o)ur funny, so that negates that "h" stuff. :P
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Aug 7 2008, 03:58 AM
(by the way, is it "a homage" or "an homage"?)

I would say it like "uhn oh-maj".
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