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| Tweet Topic Started: May 26 2008, 05:42 PM (509 Views) | |
| RosemaryTwo | May 26 2008, 05:42 PM Post #1 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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My son slid a small piece of paper behind the fallboard of my piano. If the fallboard is at 45 degrees, I can look over the top and see it, but I can't get it. When I play 4 notes in the bass, I get a crinkly papery sound. I tried some basic tactics to get it out, but I don't want to hurt the piano. I can't practice with it like this. I will call my tech in the morning, but if he can't make it out asap, is there anything I can do?
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| "Perhaps the thing to do is just to let stupid run its course." Aqua | |
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| CTPianotech | May 26 2008, 05:43 PM Post #2 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Get a ruler. Fold some tape around it, so the sticky side is still out. Tilt the fallboard forward a bit, and hopefully you'll be able to access the paper with the 'sticky' end of your ruler. |
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| George K | May 26 2008, 05:43 PM Post #3 |
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Finally
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Gum on a stick?
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| CTPianotech | May 26 2008, 05:44 PM Post #4 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Not bad George! :lol: |
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| Luke's Dad | May 26 2008, 05:45 PM Post #5 |
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Emperor Pengin
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Does your piano have screws set in the fallboard? If not, just lift it up and out. If they have screws, just loosen them and lift up and out. Just line the pins back up hen you're ready to replace it. There might be a spring on the one side giving a little bit of resistance when putting the fallboard back on, as long as you can see both pins lining up with the receptacles, however, you're fine. |
| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| George K | May 26 2008, 05:46 PM Post #6 |
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Finally
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I'm tricky today! |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| smithodude | May 26 2008, 06:35 PM Post #7 |
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Junior Carp
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Buy a digital
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| The 89th Key | May 26 2008, 06:45 PM Post #8 |
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R2, you could always compose a song around the unique noise. Who knows, maybe you'll invent a new instrument in the keyboard-paper category! |
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| smithodude | May 26 2008, 06:54 PM Post #9 |
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Junior Carp
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Not as daft as it sounds.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prepared_piano |
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| Red Rice | May 26 2008, 07:00 PM Post #10 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Toss a lit match in there. The paper will be reduced to harmless silent ash and voila! End of problem. |
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Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool. I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss! - Cecil Lewis | |
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| RosemaryTwo | May 26 2008, 11:43 PM Post #11 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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That worked! Thank you! That's the good news. Bad news is I'm suspicious something else is back there. Maybe a pencil. |
| "Perhaps the thing to do is just to let stupid run its course." Aqua | |
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| RosemaryTwo | May 27 2008, 04:24 AM Post #12 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Thanks, LD. I tried that this morning and did, in fact, find some pencils in there. It was like an office supply store behind the fall board. I was wondering who had taken all of my pencils from my music desk. Mystery is solved. My boys are actually really careful with the piano, and the 7-year-old is now taking lessons, so I'm not too mad. He has a theory book and marks it up all the time. I can see how it could happen easily. Now they just know to tell me when it happens, and now I can fix it. Previously I think they were under "don't ask don't tell" mindset, afraid that I'd freak out.
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| Luke's Dad | May 27 2008, 04:36 AM Post #13 |
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Ok, now that you have the fallboard out, we're 3/4 of the way to action regulation. All you need is a screwdriver, a pair of pliers, and looooots of duct tape. You'll find under each side of the keyboard a pair of butterfly screws......
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| JBryan | May 27 2008, 04:40 AM Post #14 |
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My wife's niece was playing my piano while she was visiting and came to me with this, "please don't be mad" kind of expression as she told me she dropped a pencil behind the fallboard. She said she had been trying for a long time but she couldn't get it out of there. I told her no problem and grabbing both ends of the fallboard lifted it straight up and off its supporting pins giving easy access to the pencil. She was sort of amazed and embarassed at the same time. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| apple | May 27 2008, 04:44 AM Post #15 |
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one of the angels
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one can become addicted to taking the piano apart. |
| it behooves me to behold | |
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| ??pianotech | May 27 2008, 04:53 AM Post #16 |
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Advanced Member
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Tell me about it! |
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| kenny | May 27 2008, 05:10 AM Post #17 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I'm looking forward to it but Blue is off limits for a long long time. Perhaps forever. I need a junker to fiddle with. I'm thinking of OT's. <_< |
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| Frank_W | May 27 2008, 05:27 AM Post #18 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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No kidding! The best free gift I ever got, was an old thrasher of a 1917 Cunningham. I bought the Reblitz textbook, and a couple of other books, and then took that piano apart from top to bottom, until the only thing left inside of it, was the harp and soundboard. I found numerous coins, bobbypins, pencils, notes from previous tunings... All sorts of interesting stuff. I shaped the hammers with an emery board, polished up all of the brass, worked over the finish with a Formby's antique reconditioning kit, vacuumed all of the dust and grunge out of it, got it tuned, (even tried my hand at tuning, very cautiously...), and just had a good ol' time with it.
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| Luke's Dad | May 27 2008, 05:29 AM Post #19 |
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Don't go a junker! Start off with a decent but inexpensive piano. Something like a used Yamaha or Kawai studio 15-20 years old in decent shape, just needing some of the rough edges taken off. Go private market, and have your tech go over it first to make sure there's no serious issues. Use it as your practice piano (tech wise, that is), then turn around and resell it. You'll get back what you paid for it, and maybe make a small profit to boot. You won't be able to do that with a 1950's Betsy Ross, plus, it will be very difficult and discouraging to work on a bad piano. Look to invest 1500-2400. It will be well worth it in learning the trade, and the money you put out will come back to you. |
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| kenny | May 27 2008, 05:40 AM Post #20 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Actually I need two practice pianos - Jose will kill me. ![]() I'll buy a clean sounding upright to practice tuning on. This will cost thousands, and probably be a Yammie U1 or U3 and I'll buy it after school. They explicitly told me to NOT to try to get a head start leaning to tune. There are too many bad habits that are hard to break. They prefer tender virgins. I'll get another free landfill piano to disassemble and reassemble and practice botching all kinds of repairs on. |
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| Frank_W | May 27 2008, 05:46 AM Post #21 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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I've got a U3. Wonderful instrument... If you get one, I think you'll be very happy with it, Kenny.
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| sue | May 27 2008, 05:55 AM Post #22 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Me too. My tech says it's a joy to work on. But then, he's a really nice guy, and maybe he says that to all his customers.
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| Frank_W | May 27 2008, 06:05 AM Post #23 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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My tech says the same thing about mine, Sue. (And my tech is a grouch!) LOL! |
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| RosemaryTwo | May 27 2008, 07:04 AM Post #24 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I already found the butterfly screws, so maybe I'm halfway there. ![]() Duct tape?
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| Frank_W | May 27 2008, 07:06 AM Post #25 |
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Cats with Velcro on them work pretty good, too. |
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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slid a small piece of paper behind the fallboard of my piano.






But then, he's a really nice guy, and maybe he says that to all his customers.

11:27 AM Jul 11