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Adieu to the true audiophile?; High-end audio dying because of MP3s
Topic Started: May 23 2008, 01:28 PM (791 Views)
John D'Oh
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kluurs
May 24 2008, 05:50 PM
I think high end will be with us for a while. We're actually about to enter a better age - when there will be more recordings available than ever before - and cheaper and likely, of better quality. The Ipod crew doesn't care - but high end audio enthusiasts are typically classical music and/or jazz lovers.

As a former jazz snob, I find this a little ironic, since it is almost certainly true that the really best jazz was created before recording techniques were fully able to capture the sound. I'd rather listen to Charlie Parker in mono or Miles Davis from the 50's and 60's than almost any of todays musicians, however well they are recorded.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Daniel
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I love high end audio equipment. Lots of different approaches you can take. None of them inexpensive, unfortunately.
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DivaDeb
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May 24 2008, 10:29 AM
DivaDeb
May 24 2008, 07:03 AM
My husband likes that kind of stuff, so we have good speakers now, and a nice system to play our vintage recordings as well as our newer higher fidelity stuff. It's one of my great wifely acting jobs to feign glorious heights of ecstacy over the good speakers. 

I guess I could lie about it and say it makes any difference to me at all, but it doesn't.  When all I had was crappy speakers I was happy to have them.  It didn't stunt my musical growth any, so I never felt like I needed something better.  Until I was 20, my "system" was one of these:

Dang, Deb. My wife could've written that post. She humors me in much the same way.

hey...I don't mind 'faking it' for this, since I don't have to elsewise

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DivaDeb
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John D'Oh
May 24 2008, 04:54 PM
kluurs
May 24 2008, 05:50 PM
I think high end will be with us for a while.  We're actually about to enter a better age - when there will be more recordings available than ever before - and cheaper and likely, of better quality.  The Ipod crew doesn't care - but high end audio enthusiasts are typically classical music and/or jazz lovers.

As a former jazz snob, I find this a little ironic, since it is almost certainly true that the really best jazz was created before recording techniques were fully able to capture the sound. I'd rather listen to Charlie Parker in mono or Miles Davis from the 50's and 60's than almost any of todays musicians, however well they are recorded.

this is CERTAINLY the case with classical/opera singers as well. Slim pickin's in recent years, no matter how hard they try to sex them up.
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OperaTenor
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DivaDeb
May 24 2008, 03:44 PM
OperaTenor
May 24 2008, 10:29 AM
DivaDeb
May 24 2008, 07:03 AM
My husband likes that kind of stuff, so we have good speakers now, and a nice system to play our vintage recordings as well as our newer higher fidelity stuff. It's one of my great wifely acting jobs to feign glorious heights of ecstacy over the good speakers. 

I guess I could lie about it and say it makes any difference to me at all, but it doesn't.  When all I had was crappy speakers I was happy to have them.  It didn't stunt my musical growth any, so I never felt like I needed something better.  Until I was 20, my "system" was one of these:

Dang, Deb. My wife could've written that post. She humors me in much the same way.

hey...I don't mind 'faking it' for this, since I don't have to elsewise

:lol:

Hey, my wife would've said that, too.

;)



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kluurs
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Some of the really old recordings are much more faithful to their original release. The good news is that one can listen to a reasonably high level of quality with more convenience than a CD - which in turn is a higher level of convenience than the 78 or LP.

I say this as someone with a decent sized LP collection - a fair number of 78s.

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George K
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kluurs
May 24 2008, 07:39 PM
I say this as someone with a decent sized LP collection

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OperaTenor
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Welllll......

Kluurs isn't the only one......

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Red Rice
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I would have thought these companies would be trying to move into the (high-end) home theater market.
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I was very happy to buy a pair of 30 year old Acoustic Research AR-3a acoustic suspension speakers last year. I used to own AR-3a speakers and haven't ever found anything that pleased me as much. Of course I had to have the foam surrounds redone, replaced the pots with stepped attenuators and replaced 1 tweeter but now I have the sound I like. However, I took a look at the McIntosh website and saw a speaker that just might be better. With 6 long throw 12" aluminum cone woofers, Sixty-four 2” inverted titanium dome mids, and forty 3/4” titanium dome tweeters the XRT2K Reference Loudspeaker may be the new winner. At 452 pounds (590 shipping including skid) the shipping might be pricey but not really noticeable when the speakers cost $80,000 each. Audio Review did note the XRT2K is "Probably not for small rooms without some bass tuning." So I'll take a pass on them since the room I listen in is probably too small.
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OperaTenor
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Joe, I've never found a speaker I liked better than my AR-94's, and I bought those in 1982. I had them re-ringed about six years ago.



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kenny
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AR-94s

http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/ar94rebuild_e.html


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kenny
May 24 2008, 09:43 PM

Guess I'm not alone in my admiration......

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kluurs
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If you love the equipment you have, never , ever go to a high end audio store...they will make you suffer...
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