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| Ted Kennedy Has Seizure - Taken to MGH | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 17 2008, 10:19 AM (532 Views) | |
| George K | May 17 2008, 10:19 AM Post #1 |
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Kennedy Hospitalized May 17, 2008 01:58 PM By Globe Staff Doctors believe that Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts suffered a seizure at his home in Hyannis Port this morning, then a second seizure as he was being transported by helicopter from Cape Cod Hospital to Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, according to an official briefed on the situation. Kennedy's condition was unclear early this afternoon, as a special police security detail gathered at Mass. General. Kennedy family members were called this morning and told to rush to Boston, according to sources. The Hyannis Fire Department responded to an emergency call requesting an ambulance at the storied Kennedy compound at about 8:19 this morning. The senator was rushed to Cape Cod Hospital. Shortly after 10 he was flown by helicopter to Boston, said Fire Lieutenant Bill Rex. The Cape Cod Times published a photograh of Kennedy, strapped to a gurney, being carried to the chopper. Kennedy, 76, is the senior statesman in one of America's political dynasties. He was first elected in 1962. In October, Kennedy had surgery to clear a blocked artery in his neck to prevent a stroke. At the time, MGH doctors said the one-hour surgery was successful and they expected Kennedy to make a full recovery. They did recommend he take aspirin to prevent blood clots after the surgery, in addition to medicine he was already taking to control high blood pressure and cholesterol. Doctors described the extent of the buildup as "a very high-grade blockage" and said there was a slight chance it could recur in the next few years. Kennedy's doctors said at the time the blockage, found in his left carotid artery, could have triggered a stroke by choking off blood flow and preventing oxygen from getting to the brain, or by breaking off and lodging in the brain. About one-quarter of strokes are due to carotid artery disease. Carotid artery surgery is typically performed on patients who have had a stroke or an artery that is at least 70 percent blocked. Kennedy felt no symptoms from the blockage, which was discovered from a routine MRI conducted to check on his spine, which was injured in a 1964 plane crash. Patients with a neck artery blockage may have similar buildups of fat and cholesterol in other blood vessels, but Kennedy's doctors said there was no need for any treatment on his right carotid artery, and said he had passed a cardiac stress test prior to the surgery. At the time, his personal physician deemed his overall health excellent and said he exercised daily and ate well. After a short period of rest, Kennedy returned to the Senate floor Oct. 30. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| ivorythumper | May 17 2008, 10:25 AM Post #2 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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I wish him a speedy recovery. |
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| Mark | May 17 2008, 10:25 AM Post #3 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Ditto. |
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| jon-nyc | May 17 2008, 10:28 AM Post #4 |
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Cheers
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Saw that. I hope he's ok. |
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| Mikhailoh | May 17 2008, 10:36 AM Post #5 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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At least he's in an excellent hospital. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Dewey | May 17 2008, 01:09 PM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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You've got to be kidding. If that's true, I don't want that doctor anywhere near me.
Well, I don't know about the exercise, but it's obvious he eats pretty well.
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685. "Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous "Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011 I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14 | |
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| George K | May 17 2008, 05:04 PM Post #7 |
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They're saying it was not a stroke.
I remember being told, back in 1974, that a seizure in an adult is a brain tumor until proven otherwise. But, there's a list of other possibilities: Alcohol Abuse. Alcohol abuse is one of the most common causes of adolescent- and adult-onset seizures. Seizures, nearly always generalized tonic-clonic, occur in about 10% of adults during withdrawal, and in about 60% of these patients, the seizures are multiple. The first seizure occurs between seven and 48 hours after the last drink, and the time between the first and last seizure is usually six hours or less. [For more information, seeWell-Connected Report #56, Alcoholism.] Head Injuries in Adults. Head injuries to adults can cause seizures, with the risk highest in severe head trauma. A first seizure related to the injury can occur years later. People with mild head injuries, which involve loss of consciousness for less than 30 minutes, have only a slight risk that lasts up to five years after the injury. Sleep Disorders. Some sleep disorders, such as obstructive sleep apnea or narcolepsy, have been associated with seizures, although a causal relationship is unclear. In fact, sleep apnea and the hereditary nocturnal frontal lobe epilepsy have very similar symptoms (feeling of choking, abnormal motor activity during sleep, and excessive sleepiness during the day). In one 2000 study, one-third of patients with epilepsy that did not respond to medications were later diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea. Some studies have found that when sleep apnea is treated in patients with both epilepsy and the sleep disorder, seizure activity decreases. More research is warranted on this subject. Stroke. Seizure is also a symptom of a major stroke. In some cases, injury to the brain from small strokes may cause seizures. Studies report that between 15% and 23% of stroke patients consequently have seizures. Other Causes in Adults. Other known or possible causes of epilepsy in teenage or adult years include the following: * Drug abuse or withdrawal from drugs. * Sudden withdrawal from certain antianxiety or antidepressant drugs. * Occupational exposure to environmental triggers. High exposure to certain chemicals has been linked with seizures. A 2000 study of utility company employees in Denmark revealed an association between high exposure to electromagnetic fields (EMF) and an increased risk of epilepsy and neurologic diseases that affected motor control. * Alzheimer's or other degenerative brain diseases in the elderly may cause seizures. * In developing nations, nervous system infection by tapeworm larvae is an important cause of epilepsy. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Jolly | May 17 2008, 05:25 PM Post #8 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Maybe we should stand up and turn our backs to him.... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Copper | May 17 2008, 05:30 PM Post #9 |
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Shortstop
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That could disrupt his treatment. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| QuirtEvans | May 17 2008, 05:37 PM Post #10 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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http://www.physiciansnews.com/law/202.html |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| George K | May 17 2008, 05:41 PM Post #11 |
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I know a family practice doc who gives himself a "Christmas present" every year. He picks the most obnoxious patient in his practice, and at the end of the year, he sends them a letter: "Dear Joe Schmoe, I am informing you that as of (date 90 days hence) I will no longer be able to be your primary physician. Enclosed please find a list of physicians in your area who may be able... Should you encounter an emergency in the next 90 days, I will be able to care... blah..blah..blah.. Sincerely, Fed up Doc." |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Frank_W | May 17 2008, 05:44 PM Post #12 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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HAHAHAHA.... That rocks!! You should be able to sue patients for malpractice, I swear... But that's almost as good!! pwn3d!! LOL |
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| Daniel | May 18 2008, 03:30 AM Post #13 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I love the expression "resting comfortably". What does that mean exactly? Pumped up with a lot of drugs? |
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| Jolly | May 18 2008, 07:17 AM Post #14 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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I dunno....first, we must define "disrupt". Then we must synthesize our multiple sources into one amalgam of group understanding, so as not to impinge or obfuscate the true meaning of the aforementioned agreed upon definition. And until we arrive at that agreement between the parties of the first part, second part and all parties germaine to the discussion, pay no attention to the Senator on the gurney. (I confess, I like the current commercial for the bank with the approximate tag line of "Just shut up, and do it.") |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| OperaTenor | May 20 2008, 09:43 AM Post #15 |
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Pisa-Carp
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It's a brain tumor. - hat tip to BeeLady. I think we might lay off the insults from now on, okay? |
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| ivorythumper | May 20 2008, 09:49 AM Post #16 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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That explains a lot of his politics as well. (only said since there weren't any real insults before). |
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| George K | May 20 2008, 09:56 AM Post #17 |
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In 1993-4, a surgeon while working to put a pacemaker into a old lady had a seizure right at the table. He lost consciousness, convulsed for several minutes. The case was finished by his partner who happened to be in the hospital. It was a malignant glioma - the same type of tumor that Kennedy has. He died within 9 months. I hope that Kennedy's tumor is not as aggressive, and may be amenable to surgery or radiation, but I am not optimistic for his long-term survival.
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| LadyElton | May 20 2008, 09:56 AM Post #18 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I wish him the best. My thoughts and prayers are with him and the Kennedy family. Regardless of one's political views, no one would wish this on someone. |
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| Jolly | May 20 2008, 10:07 AM Post #19 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Piss on the campfire and call the dogs. I hope the Senator has his affairs in order. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| QuirtEvans | May 20 2008, 10:29 AM Post #20 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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He ain't dyin' tomorrow. He'll have time to get his affairs in order. Prognosis: negative, though. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Frank_W | May 20 2008, 10:31 AM Post #21 |
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Yep. The brain is so vascular, I would imagine that such tumors metastize quickly and grow at a frightening rate... |
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| Kincaid | May 20 2008, 11:12 AM Post #22 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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At least he got a wake up call to prepare himself - neither Jack nor Bobby got that chance. Hope he gets squared away, is surrounded by family and friends and doesn't have too difficult of an end. |
| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| Copper | May 20 2008, 11:15 AM Post #23 |
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Shortstop
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He'll be at the convention and Ms. Clinton's inauguration. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Copper | May 20 2008, 11:36 AM Post #24 |
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Shortstop
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You got the wrong guy. Ted definitely comes from the time before dems encouraged victim-hood. He will ride this out, one way or the other, in good humor. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Rick | May 20 2008, 01:31 PM Post #25 |
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Senior Carp
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Gliomas do not metastasize by the bloodstream, but they can spread via the cerebrospinal fluid and cause "drop metastases" to the spinal cord. High-grade gliomas are highly-vascular tumors and have a tendency to infiltrate. They have extensive areas of necrosis and hypoxia. Often tumor growth causes a breakdown of the blood-brain barrier in the vicinity of the tumor. As a rule, high-grade gliomas almost always grow back even after complete surgical excision. On the other hand, low-grade gliomas grow slowly, often over many years, and can be followed without treatment unless they grow and cause symptoms. |
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You've got to be kidding. If that's true, I don't want that doctor anywhere near me.





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