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| Do you believe there is extra-terrestrial life? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 13 2008, 01:58 AM (1,396 Views) | |
| Daniel | May 13 2008, 01:58 AM Post #1 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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ET phone home. |
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| Moonbat | May 13 2008, 02:12 AM Post #2 |
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Pisa-Carp
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I hope so. The universe is insanely large and we know that the building blocks of life on Earth e.g. amino acids etc. are out there but we really have no idea how difficult it is for life to form so that leaves the question pretty much open. Though i think the Fermi Paradox suggests that intelligent life that is like us in that it likes to explore and expand into new places is rare. |
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| jon-nyc | May 13 2008, 02:32 AM Post #3 |
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Cheers
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Its not a matter a believing, its a matter of waiting for the evidence to come in. |
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| Mikhailoh | May 13 2008, 02:34 AM Post #4 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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I think we see the evidence here at TNCR each day. 'Surely no carbon-based life form could think THAT!'. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Klaus | May 13 2008, 02:56 AM Post #5 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I don't even believe in terrestrial life :lol: |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| Aqua Letifer | May 13 2008, 03:20 AM Post #6 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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So you're open to the possibility? Yeah, I'd say I'm in the same boat then. Not impossible, just no evidence yet. |
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| sue | May 13 2008, 07:51 AM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I believe in the possibility. We are such a tiny speck in this universe, I think the chances that we are the only life form in all that unlikely. But I haven't had any visitations. |
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| The 89th Key | May 13 2008, 08:01 AM Post #8 |
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No I do not believe that there *is* extra-terrestrial life. However I do acknowledge the possibility. |
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| ivorythumper | May 13 2008, 09:47 AM Post #9 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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I wouldn't be surprised if there were bacteria or Amway salesman in other parts of the universe. |
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| Aqua Letifer | May 13 2008, 09:49 AM Post #10 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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Your comment incorrectly implies that those two are not synonymous.
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| Daniel | May 13 2008, 09:53 AM Post #11 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I voted Yes. |
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| Renauda | May 13 2008, 10:35 AM Post #12 |
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But would it be real Amway(tm)? |
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| Luke's Dad | May 13 2008, 11:04 AM Post #13 |
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If you're Christian/Jewish/Moslem/Believe in a Creator, wouldn't that Creator be by definition "extra-terrestrial"? |
| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| Kincaid | May 13 2008, 11:08 AM Post #14 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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It surrounds us, penetrates us and binds us together. |
| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| Red Rice | May 13 2008, 11:09 AM Post #15 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool. I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss! - Cecil Lewis | |
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| Luke's Dad | May 13 2008, 11:11 AM Post #16 |
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Of course, doesn't string theory indicate that nothing is truly extra-terrestrial? |
| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| Aqua Letifer | May 13 2008, 11:30 AM Post #17 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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IMO, string theory suggests at best, and "indicates" only after it's had too many. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| Larry | May 13 2008, 03:17 PM Post #18 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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I love it..... people believe that trillions to the nth power of tons of matter came out of nothing in a big explosion all by itself..... and then the same people say energy can't be made out of thin air..... ![]() or... the notion of God is a silly matter of faith that can be dismissed because it can't be proven..... but believe in space aliens when there's absolutely no proof there, and refuse to accept they are doing so by a sheer act of faith.... ![]() or..... man is causing global warming, but nature has canceled that out for the next couple of decades..... all during a period of record cold worldwide... and someone called *me* mad as a hatter..... BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! |
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| The 89th Key | May 13 2008, 04:21 PM Post #19 |
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| pianojerome | May 13 2008, 04:30 PM Post #20 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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If we haven't found evidence, then it is a matter of believing. I think it's quite possible. And I think it's quite possible that if there is life out there, that it doesn't look/act anything at all like anything on Earth. |
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| Fizzygirl | May 13 2008, 08:56 PM Post #21 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I've always considered Amway 'salespeople' as bacteria/aliens.
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Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a purpose. ~ Garrison Keillor My latest videos. | |
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| Axtremus | May 13 2008, 11:23 PM Post #22 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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| Moonbat | May 14 2008, 01:08 AM Post #23 |
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Conservation of energy is something we observe, since the orthodox big bang theory involves the beginning of time it is not really clear that you can claim it violates conservation of energy, further it doesn't really make sense to apply laws that are ultimately properties of the universe to the origin of the universe itself. The reason why the orthodox big bang theory is atleast worth considering is because it is predicted by an extrapolation of general relativity and there is lots evidence supporting general relativity. There are decent reasons for thinking it may not turn out to be the case but what you are saying is not one of them.
Yaweh, Bhaal and Zeus like fairies or dragons are dismissed because not only is there nothing in the universe that suggests these things exist, there is nothing that even makes them plausible suggestions. Whilst the question regarding extra terrestrial life is open because we don't know how hard it is for life to form the idea is made plausible because of stuff we do know about i.e. the universe is really really really large, and life did form on this planet, so it's perfectly sensible to think that perhaps life formed on some other planets.
If a huge volcano erupted it would chuck a load of sulfur into the atmostphere and that would cause localised cooling. This localised cooling would happen regardless of whether or not anthropogenic emissions were contributing to increased average temperatures. You couldn't point to the drop in temperature due to the volcano and then say "aha that means anthropogenic emissions aren't having any impact". That makes no sense at all. Likewise you can't say that just because a paper argues that there will be localised cooling because of x,y and z factors that that shows the human-mediated global warming hypothesis is false. (Indeed the very authors of the paper point that out). What's more this is not even an observation it's a prediction made by a single paper, a paper you haven't even read. Further looking at the realclimate bet to the authors for 5000 euros there appear very good reasons for thinking this prediction will not come to pass. So it's doubly nonsensical to cite it as if it challenges the idea that carbon emissions influence global temperatures.
That would be me, and you really are quite crazy. |
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| Moonbat | May 14 2008, 01:11 AM Post #24 |
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I believe that there is a bird outside my window, because i can hear cheeping. Beliefs without evidence/basis are confused and contradictory and should be avoided by all. |
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| Klaus | May 14 2008, 01:21 AM Post #25 |
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I think there is some basis for almost every belief. For example, a person observing the beauty of nature may consider this as evidence for the existence of god. Or attribute the unexpected recovery of a sick person to his/her prayers. Or believe that a person likes you because he or she brought you flowers. Maybe you won't accept some of this evidence as evidence, but what I want to say is that evidence does not necessarily have to be of a scientific nature. |
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