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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 30 2008, 04:56 PM (472 Views) | |
| kenny | Apr 30 2008, 04:56 PM Post #1 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEotg6ukL0I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEVp4HOeoXg&feature=related |
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| The 89th Key | Apr 30 2008, 05:10 PM Post #2 |
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SONOFA |
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| DivaDeb | Apr 30 2008, 05:17 PM Post #3 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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oh my |
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| Axtremus | Apr 30 2008, 05:43 PM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I was reading the "gifted children" discussion here and at WTF, then I see this thread. It's rather sad, actually. What this child did at age eight is something that many can do much, much better at age 18. Statistics overwhelmingly favor a "gifted child" like this not making it as a concert pianist. Her best chance at a career in music is probably in becoming a piano teacher who will probably teach may be a few more others "gifted children" like her who won't likely make concert pianists. So, Kenny, as much as you envy her talent, chances are good that she will never be able to afford a piano as good as yours on her own. "Gifted children."
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| Horace | Apr 30 2008, 05:45 PM Post #5 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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The answer to the question posed in teh thread title is probably no, but it never hurts to ask. |
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| Mikhailoh | Apr 30 2008, 06:05 PM Post #6 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Certainly he can. It is simply a matter of commitment. |
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| sue | Apr 30 2008, 06:27 PM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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She's certainly very good, but I've got to say, I'm just not comfortable watching little kids being put under the spotlight like this. I guess it's a cultural difference, and one I've seen a lot of around here. To each his own, of course, but I feel more sad watching her, than amazed. |
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| Klaus | May 1 2008, 12:21 AM Post #8 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Poor kid. Her parents should be in jail. I don't even want to imagine how many "No, you can't play outside with the other kids; go practice!" discussions they had. |
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| jon-nyc | May 1 2008, 12:39 AM Post #9 |
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Cheers
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THat Nocturne was just lovely. I'll bet she can barely reach those octaves. |
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| Daniel | May 1 2008, 12:55 AM Post #10 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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| jodi | May 1 2008, 07:47 AM Post #11 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I knew somebody just like this child. I remember her playing this piece at about the same age. Her father would sit with her and direct her as she practiced. She was brilliant. She also burned out big time. She quit. She doesn't play at all any more. Very sad. Jodi
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| Free Rider | May 1 2008, 07:50 AM Post #12 |
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Fulla-Carp
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bingo |
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| Pianolicious | May 1 2008, 07:58 AM Post #13 |
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Senior Carp
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I've been to a number of NAMM shows where child prodigies are the featured performers. arrogant little kids who get hooked on the spotlight with pushy stageparents in the background. I saw one kid playing a Fazioli and i said "HI" to Dr. Fazioli and the mother stepped up and said "be quiet. My son is playing." You can't even GOOGLE their names once they hit puberty, get acne, or are no longer young and cute. |
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| DivaDeb | May 1 2008, 07:59 AM Post #14 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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this one has an older sister who plays |
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| LWpianistin | May 1 2008, 09:23 AM Post #15 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I'm teaching a young girl who is in so many after-school activities, I feel sorry for her. She has an hour-long piano lesson from 4 - 5 on Mondays, swim lessons Wednesdays with a meet every weekend (I think), art lessons and tennis lessons thrown into her schedule somewhere..... She always comes prepared to lessons, but I feel like her parents make her practice a lot more than she needs at her age (7). I know she does at least an hour a day. :wacko: |
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| kenny | May 1 2008, 09:33 AM Post #16 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I certainly understand the consensus here that pushing a child too much is not healthy even though it can produce what we see in these videos. I also suspect this is what happened to her. But I'm trying to stay open to the possibility that such skill/talent may not always be the result of damaging parenting. It is possible that she could be truly gifted and not need to practice so much that she can't also have a real childhood. It is possible that she asks mom if she can practice longer because she loves it. It is possible that she actually feels something when she plays and has some musical understanding. It is possible that she will continue to love and play piano while not pursuing it professionally. It is possible that her parents are not psycho-monsters pushing her. I'm just saying. |
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| sue | May 1 2008, 09:48 AM Post #17 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Sure, that's possible Kenny. It's just that the other side of the coin is sad to see, and that's one that is seen a lot. And aren't you Mr. Positive-let's-look-at-the-bright-side this morning. I think I need my sunglasses.
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| kenny | May 1 2008, 09:51 AM Post #18 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Well, it her life sure beats being locked up in a basement for 24 years.
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| DivaDeb | May 1 2008, 10:09 AM Post #19 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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you're right, Kenny while it's most often a pushy parent, there are certainly exceptions As regards other comments in this thread, it's a bit sad to judge someone's gifts or accomplishment as a musician by whether they choose to concertize for a living. As someone whose life-supporting ability has been almost solely wrapped up in music, I can attest that you have to want that part of it to put up with it. It could very well be that a lot of the kids who play exceptionally, and publicly, at such an early age are just sick of that part of it and don't want to do it anymore by the time they're on their own. They may have liked it fine when people were running it for them and it was kind of novel and different, then once it became their own headache, and was no longer novel, they might decide 'to hell with it.' I UNDERSTAND THAT. I loved performing a lot, but I didn't enjoy that type of traveling, living out of suitcases, having strange opera or symphony guild people shuffle you around from place to place and having to pretend everybody you met and worked with was wonderful when a lot of them make you wretch and want to go home really bad. As comfortable and in love with performance as I was, I was never comfortable with all the accompanying...bullsh*t. I was so sick of it the last five years or so that I was performing full time, I was terribly unhappy and not at all certain I even liked music. What brought my love of music back was a break from the hassle of performance and my decision to teach. A lot of truly fine artists are teachers, and thank God for that, otherwise the only people who'd know what they are doing would be too busy to tell anyone how to do it. "Concert pianist" is not the only, nor necessarily the "best", use of a profound musical facility. Who knows what she'll do? I don't, but neither does anyone else. |
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| Phlebas | May 1 2008, 10:13 AM Post #20 |
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Bull-Carp
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I think there might be a happy medium between the two scenarios. :lol: |
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Jodi
I think I need my sunglasses.

10:37 PM Jul 12