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Better than Bond; The Bourne Trilogy
Topic Started: Apr 28 2008, 12:24 PM (331 Views)
Red Rice
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Over the weekend, Kara and I indulged in the Jason Bourne movies, which neither of us had seen before. I was really impressed. Every movie in the trilogy was of similar high quality. The pacing was intense and the plot suspenseful for each one. Matt Damon was fantastic and completely convincing; I liked him more in these movies than in any of his previous roles. The supporting actors were also very good. As I was watching them, it occurred to me that I found the movies much more exciting and believable than any Bond film; Bourne relies entirely on his training, physical prowess and ingenuity. No fancy cars, high-tech gadgets, or lethal bikini babe allies. I found out there will likely be a fourth movie, and while I worry that it would spoil the perfect symmetry of the trilogy, I actually can't wait to see it!
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

- Cecil Lewis
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It is rare for a trilogy to maintain such a high level of quality through 3 distinct films. I, too, was very impressed with this series of movies and the 3rd movie actually topped my "Top Ten" list for 2007 believe it or not. It also (side note) had one of the greatest soundtracks/scores to come out in the last 10 years.
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It was a pity they'd forgotten how to use a camera by the third film - otherwise i thought they were pretty good.
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Red Rice
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That's true. I'm wasn't that fond of the handheld camera-work, though I could still tell what was going on.
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

- Cecil Lewis
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Red Rice
Apr 28 2008, 02:24 PM
Over the weekend, Kara and I indulged in the Jason Bourne movies, which neither of us had seen before. I was really impressed. Every movie in the trilogy was of similar high quality. The pacing was intense and the plot suspenseful for each one. Matt Damon was fantastic and completely convincing; I liked him more in these movies than in any of his previous roles. The supporting actors were also very good. As I was watching them, it occurred to me that I found the movies much more exciting and believable than any Bond film; Bourne relies entirely on his training, physical prowess and ingenuity. No fancy cars, high-tech gadgets, or lethal bikini babe allies. I found out there will likely be a fourth movie, and while I worry that it would spoil the perfect symmetry of the trilogy, I actually can't wait to see it!

Read the books.
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Red Rice
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I read the Bourne Identity in college, and I wasn't that impressed. The movie was quite different from the book.
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

- Cecil Lewis
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Movies ftw!
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Thought the third one was lacking. Will watch it again.
Thought the first two were great.
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Agree that they were excellent - action, mystery, romance and subtle humor at times.

If you need to be distracted for a couple of hours, they'll do the job.
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I loved all three but felt the first was the best. Maybe it was because it is my secret fantasy to somehow become the best at something without "trying".
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I was not very impressed by the Bourne trilogy. I liked the first movie, the second one was still ok, and the third one was REALLY bad. Only one action sequence after the next one. Confusing or non-existent story. Character development = 0.
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I like Ludlum.

Of course, I tend to prefer books over movies, most of the time...
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Apr 28 2008, 01:17 PM
I read the Bourne Identity in college, and I wasn't that impressed. The movie was quite different from the book.

Blasphemy!

The books so ruled over these popcorn unrealistic movies. And Matt Damon had to be one of the worst castings of all time! Jason Bourne is in his 40's when he starts his unenviable journey.

Shame on you RR!

:(
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Red Rice
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I enjoy blasphemy. :smokin:
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

- Cecil Lewis
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Red Rice
Apr 28 2008, 06:35 PM
I enjoy blasphemy. :smokin:

More blasphemy!!

Dude, we gotta hang out, I like your style. ^_^
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Bah.

Ludlum is warmed over verbose Forsyth. Want a good thriller, one that's believable? Try Day of the Jackal, Odessa File, Icon, etc. The worst is better than anything Ludlum wrote.
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DivaDeb
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Ludlum was my favorite for a number of years. Then I read The Gold Coast and became a total DeMille devotee.
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Red Rice
Apr 28 2008, 04:17 PM
I read the Bourne Identity in college, and I wasn't that impressed. The movie was quite different from the book.

The books stunk. Ludlum started out his career with a brilliant work (The Scarlatti Inheritance), had a few more good ones, but then entered into a hackneyed and trite downward spiral. His recent stuff is virtually unreadable.
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Apr 29 2008, 07:22 AM
The books stunk. Ludlum started out his career with a brilliant work (The Scarlatti Inheritance), had a few more good ones, but then entered into a hackneyed and trite downward spiral. His recent stuff is virtually unreadable.

Quirt is spot-on. I found Ludlum uncreative, trite and many of his endings disappointing.

Meh....
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If you never read The Scarlatti Inheritance, George, you should try it. The Osterman Weekend, The Matlock Paper, The Rhinemann Exchange, and The Matarese Circle were also good. Beyond that, a couple were OK, but I wouldn't bother with the rest.
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