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What's up with the Austrians?; Daughter abused in cellar for 24 years
Topic Started: Apr 28 2008, 04:51 AM (372 Views)
Klaus
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After the case of Natascha Kampusch now this absolutely incredible and disturbing story:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7370897.stm
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/0...ef=mpstoryemail

I still can't believe that this has happened!
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Mikhailoh
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That is wild, isn't it? The price of a society large enough to live anonymously I suppose.
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Klaus
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Mikhailoh
Apr 28 2008, 02:52 PM
That is wild, isn't it? The price of a society large enough to live anonymously I suppose.

No, no - the incident happened in the town Amstetten - a little village of 20,000 inhabitants in a rural area where usually everybody knows everybody. Usually one would think that these kinds of things happen in anonymous megacities, but not in rural Austria!
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Mikhailoh
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The area may be small, but the way things are set up today you can live very anonymously. It is still a very large society, and not nearly as interdependent or interactive as it once was.
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Mikhailoh
Apr 28 2008, 05:07 AM
The area may be small, but the way things are set up today you can live very anonymously. It is still a very large society, and not nearly as interdependent or interactive as it once was.

I blame cars! :silly:
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That guy is one sick fvck. I can understand why the girl is 'disturbed'. I would be too. How could the guy's wife not know? She must have been in denial. Those poor kids. :no:
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Klaus
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LadyElton
Apr 28 2008, 03:52 PM
How could the guy's wife not know?

I don't believe you can hide multiple persons in your cellar for 24 years and your wife doesn't know.
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Klaus
Apr 28 2008, 07:15 AM
LadyElton
Apr 28 2008, 03:52 PM
How could the guy's wife not know?

I don't believe you can hide multiple persons in your cellar for 24 years and your wife doesn't know.

No, I have trouble with that as well. I was thinking, maybe she's bedridden, maybe she's in a wheelchair, hard of hearing.......but no, how can you not know someone (and babies, children?!!) is living in your house for 24 years.

What a sick family. :(
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Klaus
Apr 28 2008, 04:56 AM
Usually one would think that these kinds of things happen in anonymous megacities, but not in rural Austria!

My recollection was that Germans, at least, think of rural Austrians as primitive rednecks.
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

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Klaus
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Apr 28 2008, 04:37 PM
Klaus
Apr 28 2008, 04:56 AM
Usually one would think that these kinds of things happen in anonymous megacities, but not in rural Austria!

My recollection was that Germans, at least, think of rural Austrians as primitive rednecks.

I've never heard that.

It's more likely we would say that about Bavarians :lol:
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Klaus
Apr 28 2008, 07:05 AM
It's more likely we would say that about Bavarians :lol:

Hey! That's my people! :angry: :P
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

- Cecil Lewis
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DivaDeb
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Here's a quote from another article:
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According to the police statement, Josef F. and his wife, Rosemarie, had told authorities they had found those children outside their home in 1993, 1994 and 1997.



If I were an "authority" I might say to myself...."how is it possible that this couple keeps finding babies outside it's house?" but maybe that's just me

:rolleyes:
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DivaDeb
Apr 28 2008, 05:20 PM

If I were an "authority" I might say to myself...."how is it possible that this couple keeps finding babies outside it's house?"  but maybe that's just me

:rolleyes:

They said their officially "missing" daughter placed them on their door steps:

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He told his wife that his missing daughter had dropped the unwanted children off at the house because she could not take care of them, police said.
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Klaus
Apr 28 2008, 10:25 AM
DivaDeb
Apr 28 2008, 05:20 PM

If I were an "authority" I might say to myself...."how is it possible that this couple keeps finding babies outside it's house?"  but maybe that's just me

:rolleyes:

They said their officially "missing" daughter placed them on their door steps:

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He told his wife that his missing daughter had dropped the unwanted children off at the house because she could not take care of them, police said.

might have been a good idea to check that story out
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I'm with Deb on that one.

Good luck to the mass of psychologists assigned to sort this one out.
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depressing news.
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Apr 28 2008, 10:15 AM
depressing news.

That's both true and redundant.
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Apr 28 2008, 11:11 AM
Good luck to the mass of psychologists assigned to sort this one out.

I can't imagine the daughter will ever be ok. I sincerely hope the best for her, but I just can't see her ever being a normal, happy person. Hope I'm wrong. :mellow:
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