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Where life is cheap; Death on the tracks
Topic Started: Apr 21 2008, 10:05 AM (392 Views)
big al
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20,000 have died on Mumbai's trains in five years

April 18, 2008

MUMBAI, India - India's Central & Western Railway released data this week that show an average of 10 people die on its trains every day, CNN reported. Those deaths have totaled 20,000 over the past five years.

Most deaths result from chronic overcrowding and aggressive passenger behavior. During morning and evening rush hours, some commuters ride the roofs of coaches despite the danger of electrocution from overhead catenary. Most deaths result from either electrocution or falling off trains.

Mumbai (formerly known as Bombay) is one of India's largest cities, and trains are the most common form of travel. Some 7 million commuters ride the city's trains every day. C&W was forced to release the data this week after a Mumbai activist, Chetan Kothari, requested it under India's Right to Information Act.

"There should be more awareness that it's just not worth the risk. Many people who die are the sole breadwinners of their family," Kothari said.

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Sounds awful. Count your blessings.

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Mark
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See? Public transportation is evil!

waiting for "O NOES! IT'S TEH TRAIN!"
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O NOES!! ITS TEH TRZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT......

Such a sad state for such an ancient civilization.
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Mark
Apr 21 2008, 03:49 PM
See? Public transportation is evil!

Actually Mark, this is a clear indication that they need more mandated safety legislation.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Axtremus
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Would be interesting to compare with automobile and motorcycle fatality rates in India.
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John D'Oh
Apr 21 2008, 02:21 PM
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Apr 21 2008, 03:49 PM
See?  Public transportation is evil!

Actually Mark, this is a clear indication that they need more mandated safety legislation.

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They know the risk. The take the risk.

Yes, I am 100% against seatbelt/helmet laws.
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Daniel
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And the risk of not getting where they need to go is staying home and starving to death. Get real.
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Individuals don't chose the transportation infrastructure they have to deal with. It's unrealistic to blame everything on individual choice.

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Mark
Apr 21 2008, 10:09 PM
John D'Oh
Apr 21 2008, 02:21 PM
Mark
Apr 21 2008, 03:49 PM
See?  Public transportation is evil!

Actually Mark, this is a clear indication that they need more mandated safety legislation.

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They know the risk. The take the risk.

Yes, I am 100% against seatbelt/helmet laws.

Dang, I couldn't find an audio file of it, so use your imagination:

"Shana, they bought their tickets. They knew the risks. I say... let 'em crash!"

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Apr 21 2008, 11:09 PM
John D'Oh
Apr 21 2008, 02:21 PM
Mark
Apr 21 2008, 03:49 PM
See?  Public transportation is evil!

Actually Mark, this is a clear indication that they need more mandated safety legislation.

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They know the risk. The take the risk.

Yes, I am 100% against seatbelt/helmet laws.

OK. Don't wear a helmet. But when you get all brain damaged and dependent in a wreck, we're just going to let you starve to death, or whatever.

Why should I be taxed to pay for your choice to ride without a helmet? Your freedom ends at my wallet.
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Apr 22 2008, 07:35 AM
Mark
Apr 21 2008, 11:09 PM
John D'Oh
Apr 21 2008, 02:21 PM
Mark
Apr 21 2008, 03:49 PM
See?  Public transportation is evil!

Actually Mark, this is a clear indication that they need more mandated safety legislation.

Posted Image

They know the risk. The take the risk.

Yes, I am 100% against seatbelt/helmet laws.

OK. Don't wear a helmet. But when you get all brain damaged and dependent in a wreck, we're just going to let you starve to death, or whatever.

Why should I be taxed to pay for your choice to ride without a helmet? Your freedom ends at my wallet.

Libertarianism is just another ideology which leads otherwise intelligent people to act stupidly as a matter of principle.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Mark
Apr 21 2008, 10:09 PM
John D'Oh
Apr 21 2008, 02:21 PM
Mark
Apr 21 2008, 03:49 PM
See?  Public transportation is evil!

Actually Mark, this is a clear indication that they need more mandated safety legislation.

Posted Image

They know the risk. The take the risk.

Yes, I am 100% against seatbelt/helmet laws.

I'm afraid I need to edit your statement, Mark.

Yes, I am 100% against seatbelt/helmet laws, except when they are in my interest, like protecting my backyard.
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Apr 22 2008, 05:17 AM


Yes, I am 100% against seatbelt/helmet laws, except when they are in my interest, like protecting my backyard.

That doesn't sound bad at all, actually.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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John D'Oh
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Ask someone with a 4 year old child that has been thrown through the windshield and killed how they feel about seatbelt laws.

Too extreme?

OK, ask someone with a 35 year old spouse who has been thrown through the windshield and turned into a Terri Schiavo lookalike how they feel about seatbelt laws.

People never think it's going to happen to them.

This kind of stuff does affect our back yard. I have worked with safety issues for the last 20 years, and without legislation it's absolutely incredible the kind of stupid risks people are willing to ignore, overlook, or even worse take with the lives of others.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Depends on how fast you drive.

In present day US, lots of people drive very fast on very broad, well-paved roads, 55 mph, 65 mph, 70 mph ... seat belts and child car seats are crucial.

Go to some less developed corners of the Earth, you'll be looking at narrow, bumpy roads, and people rarely go beyond, say 30 mph, 40 mph. Seat belts and child car seats are not critical then.

There were certain times and places when/where seat belts and child car seats did not exist, yet people drove automobiles with low casualty rates.
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Mark
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Seat belt and helmet laws have absolutely nothing to do with my back yard.
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You are 100% against all laws that restrict anyone's freedoms.

Except when those laws benefit you.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Mark
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You couldn't be more wrong.
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