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| A Troubling Development in Terrorist Cases; We Can't Convict | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 21 2008, 09:19 AM (119 Views) | |
| QuirtEvans | Apr 21 2008, 09:19 AM Post #1 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...ml?hpid=topnews Frankly, I can't see that the Bush DoJ is doing anything wrong here. Try to stop terror plots before they do any harm is absolutely the right thing to do. It's troubling that we can't get convictions, though. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Luke's Dad | Apr 21 2008, 09:41 AM Post #2 |
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Emperor Pengin
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The Miami case is troubling. Were they just loons, talking out their behinds, or was there something more to it than talking. I can see where the jury's coming from in that case. Would they ever have done anything more than talk about someday blowing up the Sear's tower? They were led into the FBI bombing plans by the informant. If the informant hadn't been involved, would they have just been a loony group getting together a couple of times a month without ever doing anything? At the same time, does that make them any less dangerous, if all it takes is one guy from Al Qaeda coming in to talk with them and getting them signed onboard for terrorist attacks? Even then, the group fell apart before things got beyond a plan. Was there a real and legitimate threat here? If yes, how much of the threat was created by an outsider? Obviously, if this had been a real agent of Al Qaieda, you have to assume the attacks would have occured. Because this guy wasn't does it change anything? Tough one. I'd hate to be on the jury. |
| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| Mark | Apr 21 2008, 09:42 AM Post #3 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Convictions for what exactly? Thinking about doing something? That's thought crime. Can you say 1984? I agree that if they find someone planning these things they must have the tools to surveil and follow them and then wait until they are in the act of attempting to carry out the plan. To simply think about such things or even to plan vocalize or publish them should not be a crime. |
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