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| Aqua Letifer | Mar 7 2008, 12:51 PM Post #51 |
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Yeah, I disagree with that. Sounds like a great philosophical truth, but it's not, really. You can be a nice guy or you can be an ass, but if someone's being a jerk to you, taking issue with that has to do with them being a jerk, not something you have against yourself. Now, your self-control over how you react to jerks is of course a personal matter. How you choose to respond is individual. But if you choose to hate the person for it, it's still a trait of theirs you have a problem with. The choice is yours but the problem still lies in them. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| Frank_W | Mar 7 2008, 12:52 PM Post #52 |
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Being complete within oneself simply means that we are free to love others, and if they love us in return that's wonderful, but if they don't, our whole world doesn't collapse. Love is its own reason. It's not this needy, clingy, "OMFG, I'm drowning and my whole life is wrapped up in you, and if you don't love me, or if we part ways, I'm going to die!!!!" The needy, clingy sort of love is one that ultimately becomes unhealthy. It's unhealthy from the start. Some of the signs are jealousy, suspicion, isolating one's partner from friends, family, and extracurricular activities, and it gives way to obsession, abuse, manipulation, resentment, and eventually, slavery for both parties in the relationship. As for hating what is within ourselves when it is reflected back to us in the actions of others: That's just not true. I despise child abusers and child molesters. I've never abused or molested a child, nor have I ever wanted to. That theory then, simply doesn't hold water. Even if that theory were true, I am responsible for my actions and behavior, and for having a modicum of self-discipline and self-control. When someone else can't be bothered to exercise the same minimal level of consideration, then they probably should be smacked in the head for it. |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 7 2008, 01:00 PM Post #53 |
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You are missing the point. We can well hate thing in others that we don't hate in ourselves. But that does not argue against what we hate *most* in others is that what we hate in ourselves. |
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| Aqua Letifer | Mar 7 2008, 01:02 PM Post #54 |
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What's your reasoning behind that? I don't believe that's universally true. Sure, if someone ticks us off, it's more annoying if we're guilty of the same, but to say that's always the case is too much of a jump. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 7 2008, 01:04 PM Post #55 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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You are missing the point as well. I did not say that everything we hate in others is because we hate it in ourselves. I can hate Hitler for killing the Catholics without ever wanting to kill a Catholic. I am talking about the visceral reaction that so many here seem so quick to vent. |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 7 2008, 01:06 PM Post #56 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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If you don't see it, you don't see it. It's not my job to convince you. I'd just ask you to look at those on the board with whom you have the most conflict, and try to isolate what is it about them that pisses you off, and see if it is not a reflection of your own bad side that you'd rather not deal with. |
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| Frank_W | Mar 7 2008, 01:09 PM Post #57 |
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There's only one person here that I find highly offensive, and who I will usually avoid, and I can tell you beyond any shadow of a doubt, it's not because such traits are within me and therefore I am "lashing out," as it were. I think your theory is sometimes true and applicable to some situations, but not all situations, and it's not true across the board for every person. |
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| Aqua Letifer | Mar 7 2008, 01:10 PM Post #58 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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I agree as well. |
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| sue | Mar 7 2008, 01:10 PM Post #59 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I've certainly heard of people who think a formal, church based wedding ceremony implies a deeper commitment to the relationship than others who choose to bond without benefit of clergy. |
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| Luke's Dad | Mar 7 2008, 01:12 PM Post #60 |
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Well screw you, hemphead.
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| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| Frank_W | Mar 7 2008, 01:13 PM Post #61 |
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And the horse I rode in on?
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| Luke's Dad | Mar 7 2008, 01:13 PM Post #62 |
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And double screw you, intellectual property pirate!
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| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Mar 7 2008, 01:15 PM Post #63 |
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Oh, go roll double zeros. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| Frank_W | Mar 7 2008, 01:16 PM Post #64 |
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Don't make me break out half a peace sign.
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 7 2008, 01:17 PM Post #65 |
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Just between you and me, who is it? Maybe I can tell if you display the same traits.
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| Frank_W | Mar 7 2008, 01:18 PM Post #66 |
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| OperaTenor | Mar 7 2008, 01:18 PM Post #67 |
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Pisa-Carp
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Late to the party. Coming to the conclusion that divorce is the lesser of two evils in a marriage is not inconsistent with the vow, or in the views of Christianity. I am not particularly proud to be eminently qualified to speak on this subject.... |
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| Aqua Letifer | Mar 7 2008, 01:19 PM Post #68 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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OT, have you read the bible? All of it? ( )
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| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| Luke's Dad | Mar 7 2008, 01:20 PM Post #69 |
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Can you hear this? Can you? Well let me turn it up for you!Secret,Non Rick Roll Link for FrankW Only
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| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| OperaTenor | Mar 7 2008, 01:20 PM Post #70 |
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Pisa-Carp
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Dang, you beat my edit. Yes, as a matter of fact, I have. Even Leviticus and Numbers.....
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| Frank_W | Mar 7 2008, 01:23 PM Post #71 |
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| taiwan_girl | Mar 7 2008, 02:31 PM Post #72 |
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Someone told me that when men get married, they want there wife to be the same as their girlfriend. When women get married, they figure that they will be able to change their boyfriend once they get married. Neither happens. Women change and men stay the same.
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| Renauda | Mar 7 2008, 03:00 PM Post #73 |
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I think it was David Burton who, on several occasions when this topic arose, pointed out that there are many a married couple out there who had no business getting married in the first place. A train wreck before it even got started. He's right. At least nowadays they don't have to spend the rest of their miserable adult lives glaring at one another across the dinner table awaiting release through death. What a total absurdity and waste of lives. |
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