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Moderators - please do something about Larry.
Topic Started: Mar 6 2008, 06:50 PM (5,173 Views)
Axtremus
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HOLY CARP!!!
Frank_W
Mar 7 2008, 09:32 AM
sarah_blueparrot
Mar 7 2008, 02:06 AM
jgoo
Mar 7 2008, 08:10 AM
Think what you will, Larry, but I see you are the only one here stating that he is disrespecting anybody. Everyone else says that they realize that Crash has a certain personality and that they let well enough alone and skip over it to the next thing. You do NOT have to open any thread that you don't want to. When you see a thread that was created by Crash, simply DO NOT OPEN IT. Nobody is forcing you to do so, it is of your own free will.

jgoo, I also think that Crash is disrespectful, and if you will excuse me, "certain personality," my derriere. He is consistently disrespectful and vulgar towards women, about women, towards us as the forum (Frank got it spot on when he described Crash's antics as treating us like an ant farm) and I feel that he has nothing of value to add, which I have stated before. Others have questioned my right to judge whether or not someone's posts add to this forum. Although I certainly don't agree with his language or style, which I have also stated before, Larry points out that posts about masterbation and the daily posts about his damned woman are not really quality reading material.

Regarding Crash's reply to Peggy, at the time I thought it was very thoughtless. She - as have we all - tolerated months of women threads and in this one posted a gentle reminder that he could perhaps remember that there are other important and more serious things to think about, and whilst his words were certainly not disrepectful, his general attitude and the way he immediately swung the topic back onto himself with not so much as an acknowledgement for Peggy's hint, was.

Crash says that his women remarks are obviously in jest. I do not get this evidence; I find them vile. He posted something to me a while ago regarding my boyfriend and likening him to "any other guy" out there, meaning he is as vile as Crash. Posts like this and his daily rubbish littering the forum, especially as he knows that we do not appreciate them, do nothing for this place. I would be ashamed to invite my friends here with page 1 being so evidently littered with carp.

As for not opening any of his threads: why should we have to avoid his threads? You say, "When you see a thread that was created by Crash, simply DO NOT OPEN IT." This implies that you and others acknowledge that the content of the said thread is not worth reading. In this case, why is it still there? I'd like to think that this is a place where I can read and contribute to anything here, and when a surprising proportion of threads are started by Crash, that narrows my choices down slightly, which I do not appreciate.

I agree with all that you've written here, Sarah.

Frank_W,

I respect the fact that you agree with Sarah on her view of CrashTest.

My question to you is: Do you believe this excuses Larry's lying to every one about having created the "Crash Test" sockpuppet and trying to cause trouble for CrashTest? Is this an action you condone?
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Axtremus
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HOLY CARP!!!
Aqua Letifer
Mar 7 2008, 09:35 AM
Frank_W
Mar 7 2008, 05:32 AM
sarah_blueparrot
Mar 7 2008, 02:06 AM
jgoo
Mar 7 2008, 08:10 AM
Think what you will, Larry, but I see you are the only one here stating that he is disrespecting anybody. Everyone else says that they realize that Crash has a certain personality and that they let well enough alone and skip over it to the next thing. You do NOT have to open any thread that you don't want to. When you see a thread that was created by Crash, simply DO NOT OPEN IT. Nobody is forcing you to do so, it is of your own free will.

jgoo, I also think that Crash is disrespectful, and if you will excuse me, "certain personality," my derriere. He is consistently disrespectful and vulgar towards women, about women, towards us as the forum (Frank got it spot on when he described Crash's antics as treating us like an ant farm) and I feel that he has nothing of value to add, which I have stated before. Others have questioned my right to judge whether or not someone's posts add to this forum. Although I certainly don't agree with his language or style, which I have also stated before, Larry points out that posts about masterbation and the daily posts about his damned woman are not really quality reading material.

Regarding Crash's reply to Peggy, at the time I thought it was very thoughtless. She - as have we all - tolerated months of women threads and in this one posted a gentle reminder that he could perhaps remember that there are other important and more serious things to think about, and whilst his words were certainly not disrepectful, his general attitude and the way he immediately swung the topic back onto himself with not so much as an acknowledgement for Peggy's hint, was.

Crash says that his women remarks are obviously in jest. I do not get this evidence; I find them vile. He posted something to me a while ago regarding my boyfriend and likening him to "any other guy" out there, meaning he is as vile as Crash. Posts like this and his daily rubbish littering the forum, especially as he knows that we do not appreciate them, do nothing for this place. I would be ashamed to invite my friends here with page 1 being so evidently littered with carp.

As for not opening any of his threads: why should we have to avoid his threads? You say, "When you see a thread that was created by Crash, simply DO NOT OPEN IT." This implies that you and others acknowledge that the content of the said thread is not worth reading. In this case, why is it still there? I'd like to think that this is a place where I can read and contribute to anything here, and when a surprising proportion of threads are started by Crash, that narrows my choices down slightly, which I do not appreciate.

I agree with all that you've written here, Sarah.

I agree as well. Very much so.

Aqua,

I respect the fact that you agree with Frank_W and Sarah on their view of CrashTest.

My question to you is: Do you believe this excuses Larry's lying to every one about having created the "Crash Test" sockpuppet and trying to cause trouble for CrashTest? Is this an action you condone?
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ivorythumper
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CashChest
Mar 7 2008, 12:27 AM
Not that I want to hear either, but I'd much rather hear a man call someone a c********r, than hear a boy talk about their whacking off habits.  I saw Crash's thread from before, and I can't believe he would be that immature to brag about masturbating on a forum where women are members.

That's just me.


Phleeb:

He's certainly not the only one who occasionally speaks about his masturbatory habits, but I won't mention names.

The one other person who I am thinking about has never been censured AFAICR. No one ever called him on the carpet for disrespecting the forum.
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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Aqua Letifer
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Axtremus
Mar 7 2008, 06:47 AM

Aqua,

I respect the fact that you agree with Frank_W and Sarah on their view of CrashTest.

My question to you is: Do you believe this excuses Larry's lying to every one about having created the "Crash Test" sockpuppet and trying to cause trouble for CrashTest? Is this an action you condone?

Nope, it doesn't excuse him and I don't condone what Larry did. (Though in all honesty I'm not really following the issue much.)

However, since this is directed at Crash I don't much care.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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My question to you is: Do you believe this excuses Larry's lying to every one about having created the "Crash Test" sockpuppet and trying to cause trouble for CrashTest? Is this an action you condone?


I didn't lie to "everyone", dickhead. I was speaking to Crash.

You're dumber than a box of hair sometimes.

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ivorythumper
Mar 7 2008, 09:49 AM
He's certainly not the only one who occasionally speaks about his masturbatory habits, but I won't mention names.

The one other person who I am thinking about has never been censured AFAICR.

I was writing about jellied eels and what's more it wasn't a euphemism!
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Copper
Mar 7 2008, 09:44 AM
Mikhailoh
Mar 7 2008, 08:44 AM

TNCR is supposed to be the Wild West Saloon.


Exactly.

And this is another memorable romp in the sawdust.

I’m think I’ll stay out of the mud-slinging on this one. The evidence for and against the combatants is fairly well documented.

I would like to once again complement the moderators for their fine work. They should continue to not have rules and to do whatever they think is the right thing to do.

Most sensible post in this thread. :thumb:
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QuirtEvans
Mar 7 2008, 06:09 AM
Anyone else who thinks that my accusing IT of name-calling was a lie (in another thread), feel free to speak up.

Gee Quirt, what did I miss?

Link please. :popcorn:
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Larry
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Oh - and don't get too comfortable, Ax.... when I'm finished with Crash I'm going after pinheaded dorks....

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Aqua Letifer
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ivorythumper
Mar 7 2008, 06:56 AM
QuirtEvans
Mar 7 2008, 06:09 AM
Anyone else who thinks that my accusing IT of name-calling was a lie (in another thread), feel free to speak up.

Gee Quirt, what did I miss?

Link please. :popcorn:

I think Quirt was referring to this:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_New_Coffee...showtopic=32801
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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ivorythumper
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John D'Oh
Mar 7 2008, 07:51 AM
ivorythumper
Mar 7 2008, 09:49 AM
He's certainly not the only one who occasionally speaks about his masturbatory habits, but I won't mention names.

The one other person who I am thinking about has never been censured AFAICR.

I was writing about jellied eels and what's more it wasn't a euphemism!

Oh, I knew THAT wasn't a euphemism. :lol:
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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Aqua Letifer
Mar 7 2008, 07:58 AM
ivorythumper
Mar 7 2008, 06:56 AM
QuirtEvans
Mar 7 2008, 06:09 AM
Anyone else who thinks that my accusing IT of name-calling was a lie (in another thread), feel free to speak up.

Gee Quirt, what did I miss?

Link please. :popcorn:

I think Quirt was referring to this:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_New_Coffee...showtopic=32801

You should be banned.
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:angry: I've been Rick Rolled!

(actually, as soon as I saw 'connecting to www.youtube.com' at the bottom of my screen, I quickly exited - close one!)
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ivorythumper
Mar 7 2008, 06:49 AM
CashChest
Mar 7 2008, 12:27 AM
Not that I want to hear either, but I'd much rather hear a man call someone a c********r, than hear a boy talk about their whacking off habits.  I saw Crash's thread from before, and I can't believe he would be that immature to brag about masturbating on a forum where women are members.

That's just me.


Phleeb:

He's certainly not the only one who occasionally speaks about his masturbatory habits, but I won't mention names.

The one other person who I am thinking about has never been censured AFAICR. No one ever called him on the carpet for disrespecting the forum.

I must have missed it.
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Aqua Letifer
Mar 7 2008, 09:58 AM


Great link, thanks.
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kenny
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Mar 6 2008, 07:39 PM
Larry
Mar 6 2008, 11:36 PM
Gee thanks, Peggy. I'll stand up for you again sometime....

If you were right in this, I'd stand up for you and you know it.

But, in this....... sorry, no can do.

Friends tell the truth. And I'm just speaking as I see the truth.

You're a wonderful person, Larry. But..... this was wrong.

We should stand up for what is right, not for people.

Loyalty blinds.
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Larry
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kenny
Mar 7 2008, 10:21 AM
Larry
Mar 6 2008, 07:36 PM
Gee thanks, Peggy. I'll stand up for you again sometime....

We should stand up for what is right, not for people.

Loyalty blinds.

I did stand up for what is right. It just happens that there was a people involved in it.

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kenny
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Ignore double post.

(Note: I added Peggy's response to my previous post, two posts up.)
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kenny
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Larry
Mar 7 2008, 07:23 AM
kenny
Mar 7 2008, 10:21 AM
Larry
Mar 6 2008, 07:36 PM
Gee thanks, Peggy. I'll stand up for you again sometime....

We should stand up for what is right, not for people.

Loyalty blinds.

I did stand up for what is right. It just happens that there was a people involved in it.

Nah, you were telling Peggy, "If you don't stand up for me I won't stand up for you."

Maintaining two lists of names (good guys and bad guys) in your head is gang mentality.
It is a low-level way to live.
It substitutes fear and protection-in-numbers for self esteem.

Peggy had the self esteem to point out that what you did was wrong.

Your fellow gang members (you know who you are) would never do this because they operate on the Us vs. Them gang mentality. IOW Loyalty.

Anything bad a member of the gang does gets overlooked.
Loyalty trumps all.

Loyalty blinds.
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kenny
Mar 7 2008, 07:38 AM
Maintaining two lists of names (good guys and bad guys) in your head is gang mentality.
It is a low-level way to live.
It substitutes fear and protection-in-numbers for self esteem.


Kenny,

Don't you have the same lists?

lb
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I think it's the other way around, Kenny. People are sometimes blinded into loyalty, but loyalty is a fine attribute, not at all universally blind. I'd like to see the word, and the concept behind it, viewed as a separate concept than the sort of pied piper thing you're talking about. Blind loyalty is not really the same thing as noble loyalty through thick and thin. It's not the loyalty that is at fault, but an individual's motives in expressing that loyalty.

True relationship loyalty is a very open-eyed integrity; an I love you warts and all kind of devotion.

Clear-eyed loyalty is beautiful. Blind loyalty is self-deception.
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I don't agree with making a harassing sock puppet, and yes, I think it crossed the line, but I do understand the frustration that served as the motive behind it. It is interesting that this has become such a big deal, when The Grim Reaper was allowed to constantly vomit his/her incendiary attacks for months, before people began to collectively speak up.

It tells me more about the double standard that people claim to abhor. :shrug:
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Mar 7 2008, 10:01 AM
I don't agree with making a harassing sock puppet, and yes, I think it crossed the line, but I do understand the frustration that served as the motive behind it. It is interesting that this has become such a big deal, when The Grim Reaper was allowed to constantly vomit his/her incendiary attacks for months, before people began to collectively speak up.

It tells me more about the double standard that people claim to abhor. :shrug:

Agreed, Frank.
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