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Moderators - please do something about Larry.
Topic Started: Mar 6 2008, 06:50 PM (5,174 Views)
sarah_blueparrot
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Mar 7 2008, 09:21 AM
Sarah, as I have admitted, I rarely if ever read a Crash thread. Do other people read them? Yes, they do. Do other people respond to them? Yes, they do. Therefore there must be some sort of 'value' to them.

I'll finish this thought tomorrow. Bed time for now. Nite.

The reason people read and respond to Crash's threads is to tell him how immature, how thoughtless and how worthless his posts are. You can see that in any of his threads. Just because people reply to him doesn't mean that there is something of value there.
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jgoo:
You do NOT have to open any thread that you don't want to. When you see a thread that was created by Crash, simply DO NOT OPEN IT.


jgoo, I think you need to step back and see the bigger picture (I am agreeing with sarah above). This is not a "private" forum, where we can decide to not open a crashtest thread because we know the contents will be inane.

This is a PUBLIC forum, one which hopefully will be the type of forum to attract new people. If you truely agree with what you wrote above, then post a PG-13 warning to the public not to open Crashtest threads, as they may be offensive towards women, and may contain personal idiotic masturbation questions and other who-knows-what from an immature messed up kid.

My daugher used to enjoy reading some of the banter on this forum, but I have blocked this forum on her PC (not that she really cares, probably has not even noticed). And it's not just because of crashtest, it's that so many threads contain the most despicable words and insults thrown about as if no one except "us" can hear.

I forget. How long ago was Crastest's last sincere apology??
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Larry
Mar 7 2008, 01:35 AM
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Impersonating another poster and lying to the forum about it -- you, Larry, are the one disrespecting the forum.


I didn't lie about it, dumbass.

You don't like me, Ax. I don't like you either. You're a spiteful little turd who reminds me of a grade school hall monitor. I really don't care what you think of me, so what say you stick it up your ass.

You did lie about it.

You accused CrashTest of being the "Crash Test" sock to stir up the pot. That was a lie, because you knew that YOU had started the "Crash Test" sock.

It's a simple fact. You can dispute it all you like, but it's like saying the sky isn't blue. It doesn't change the facts.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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sarah_blueparrot
Mar 7 2008, 03:06 AM
jgoo
Mar 7 2008, 08:10 AM
Think what you will, Larry, but I see you are the only one here stating that he is disrespecting anybody. Everyone else says that they realize that Crash has a certain personality and that they let well enough alone and skip over it to the next thing. You do NOT have to open any thread that you don't want to. When you see a thread that was created by Crash, simply DO NOT OPEN IT. Nobody is forcing you to do so, it is of your own free will.

jgoo, I also think that Crash is disrespectful, and if you will excuse me, "certain personality," my derriere. He is consistently disrespectful and vulgar towards women, about women, towards us as the forum (Frank got it spot on when he described Crash's antics as treating us like an ant farm) and I feel that he has nothing of value to add, which I have stated before. Others have questioned my right to judge whether or not someone's posts add to this forum. Although I certainly don't agree with his language or style, which I have also stated before, Larry points out that posts about masterbation and the daily posts about his damned woman are not really quality reading material.


For whatever it's worth, I agree with Sarah, and, God help me, Larry, on this point.

However, ultimately, I agree with jgoo that there's no reason to ban him or take action against him.

I also don't have a problem with Larry starting a sock to tweak Crash.

However, none of that excuses the lie Larry told, when he accused Crash of starting the sock. That, imho, was way over the line.
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Mar 7 2008, 12:56 AM
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Mar 6 2008, 09:35 PM
So I just got back from Boston.

Did I miss anything?  :popcorn:

Apparently not. Hell, I just returned to the screen after having dinner to find this dog's breakfast all over it.

My dog would not eat this.
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Larry started Crash Test to bait Crash. It is no different than the abominable thread he started with the sole purpose of baiting Daniel a month or two ago.

Since Larry has made his peace with Daniel and others, and now that kathyk is not here, Larry clearly needs someone to **** on and Crash is an easy target. That is the way it is with bullies. Whithout a target, their little life has no meaning. When has Larry ever NOT had at least one target here (or in any forum)?

It's easy enough to ignore Crash's threads. I do it all the time.

I could go on, but I won't.

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Mar 7 2008, 01:50 PM
Larry started Crash Test to bait Crash. It is no different than the abominable thread he started with the sole purpose of baiting Daniel a month or two ago.

See what you did. After your post about baits the following ad showed up in the google ads area:

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Kenai Fishing Package
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www.JimmieJackFishing.com
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Mar 7 2008, 07:17 AM
Jack Frost
Mar 7 2008, 01:50 PM
Larry started Crash Test to bait Crash.  It is no different than the abominable thread he started with the sole purpose of baiting Daniel a month or two ago.

See what you did. After your post about baits the following ad showed up in the google ads area:

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Kenai Fishing Package
Featured on OLN with Larry Csonka Kenai River Fishing Guides
www.JimmieJackFishing.com

Klaus, it sure beats the Ann Coulter ads I was seeing a while ago!

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Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter; and with eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations.
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Mar 7 2008, 05:47 AM
Larry
Mar 7 2008, 01:35 AM
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Impersonating another poster and lying to the forum about it -- you, Larry, are the one disrespecting the forum.


I didn't lie about it, dumbass.

You don't like me, Ax. I don't like you either. You're a spiteful little turd who reminds me of a grade school hall monitor. I really don't care what you think of me, so what say you stick it up your ass.

You did lie about it.

You accused CrashTest of being the "Crash Test" sock to stir up the pot. That was a lie, because you knew that YOU had started the "Crash Test" sock.

It's a simple fact. You can dispute it all you like, but it's like saying the sky isn't blue. It doesn't change the facts.

Oh for pete's sake pull the stick out of your ass. The whole point of the sock was to bait Crashtest. So I poked him with a stick - he knew it wasn't him, I knew it wasn't him, and I wasn't talking to you.
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That is the way it is with bullies. Whithout a target, their little life has no meaning. When has Larry ever NOT had at least one target here (or in any forum)?


You're another little whining ninny. You're so eager to take a swat at me, you don't even see just who the bully actually was in this. You think a bully is always the one who makes the loudest noise, do you? Crashtest has been bullying this forum for months. Imagine a scene where a bunch of people are sitting in a room trying to enjoy each other's company, and every so often one of them gets up and takes a whiz at them. Who's the bully Jack - the guy taking the whiz, or the guy who finally slaps him crosseyed for pissing on people?

Nah, you won't know the answer.
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Larry
Mar 7 2008, 07:56 AM
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Mar 7 2008, 05:47 AM
Larry
Mar 7 2008, 01:35 AM
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Impersonating another poster and lying to the forum about it -- you, Larry, are the one disrespecting the forum.


I didn't lie about it, dumbass.

You don't like me, Ax. I don't like you either. You're a spiteful little turd who reminds me of a grade school hall monitor. I really don't care what you think of me, so what say you stick it up your ass.

You did lie about it.

You accused CrashTest of being the "Crash Test" sock to stir up the pot. That was a lie, because you knew that YOU had started the "Crash Test" sock.

It's a simple fact. You can dispute it all you like, but it's like saying the sky isn't blue. It doesn't change the facts.

Oh for pete's sake pull the stick out of your ass. The whole point of the sock was to bait Crashtest. So I poked him with a stick - he knew it wasn't him, I knew it wasn't him, and I wasn't talking to you.

When you said that Crash had created the sock, you were saying that to everyone on the board.

And it was a flat-out lie.

The fact that you admitted it shortly afterwards is meaningless. You only admitted it because apple outed you.

You lied. For whatever reason, that doesn't fit your self-image, but that's hardly my problem. The simple fact is, you lied. You said something that wasn't true, and that you knew wasn't true. It wasn't said jokingly, or sarcastically. It was a lie. You lied.

I'll just add it to my list of "Lies That Larry Has Told".
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When you said that Crash had created the sock, you were saying that to everyone on the board.

And it was a flat-out lie.


I was speaking directly to Crash. Where did you see you or anyone else being addressed in it, and who died and made you god that you can read my mind and know my intent?

Now - if you want to talk about a flat out lie...... we can discuss your recent accusation in another thread where you lied by claiming that IT had called you a name when he clearly had not. There's a lie we can talk about, Quirt.
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Anyone else who thinks that my accusing IT of name-calling was a lie (in another thread), feel free to speak up. Larry's opinion is utterly meaningless to me.

Anyone else who thinks Larry was being truthful when he accused Crash of starting the "Crash Test" sockpuppet, please speak up.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Anyone else who thinks Quirt needs to pull the stick out of his ass, speak up....
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Mar 7 2008, 08:13 AM
Anyone else who thinks Quirt needs to pull the stick out of his ass, speak up....

I admit that I am often prickly, and it's hardly the first time someone has accused me of having a stick up my butt.

You, on the other hand, are often accused of lying.

As between those two accusations, I know which one I prefer to have tossed at me.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Yeah, and you're usually the little stick-up-his-ass whiner that is doing the accusing, so it's a meaningless accusation.

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Mar 7 2008, 08:25 AM
Yeah, and you're usually the little stick-up-his-ass whiner that is doing the accusing, so it's a meaningless accusation.

I'm hardly the only one, even in this thread.

Without even looking back, there were at least two other people who said so directly, and at least one more who either said it or implied it.

Seems to be a fairly widespread opinion.
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sarah_blueparrot
Mar 7 2008, 02:06 AM
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Mar 7 2008, 08:10 AM
Think what you will, Larry, but I see you are the only one here stating that he is disrespecting anybody. Everyone else says that they realize that Crash has a certain personality and that they let well enough alone and skip over it to the next thing. You do NOT have to open any thread that you don't want to. When you see a thread that was created by Crash, simply DO NOT OPEN IT. Nobody is forcing you to do so, it is of your own free will.

jgoo, I also think that Crash is disrespectful, and if you will excuse me, "certain personality," my derriere. He is consistently disrespectful and vulgar towards women, about women, towards us as the forum (Frank got it spot on when he described Crash's antics as treating us like an ant farm) and I feel that he has nothing of value to add, which I have stated before. Others have questioned my right to judge whether or not someone's posts add to this forum. Although I certainly don't agree with his language or style, which I have also stated before, Larry points out that posts about masterbation and the daily posts about his damned woman are not really quality reading material.

Regarding Crash's reply to Peggy, at the time I thought it was very thoughtless. She - as have we all - tolerated months of women threads and in this one posted a gentle reminder that he could perhaps remember that there are other important and more serious things to think about, and whilst his words were certainly not disrepectful, his general attitude and the way he immediately swung the topic back onto himself with not so much as an acknowledgement for Peggy's hint, was.

Crash says that his women remarks are obviously in jest. I do not get this evidence; I find them vile. He posted something to me a while ago regarding my boyfriend and likening him to "any other guy" out there, meaning he is as vile as Crash. Posts like this and his daily rubbish littering the forum, especially as he knows that we do not appreciate them, do nothing for this place. I would be ashamed to invite my friends here with page 1 being so evidently littered with carp.

As for not opening any of his threads: why should we have to avoid his threads? You say, "When you see a thread that was created by Crash, simply DO NOT OPEN IT." This implies that you and others acknowledge that the content of the said thread is not worth reading. In this case, why is it still there? I'd like to think that this is a place where I can read and contribute to anything here, and when a surprising proportion of threads are started by Crash, that narrows my choices down slightly, which I do not appreciate.

I agree with all that you've written here, Sarah.
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You're bobbing and weaving, Quirt. Outside of the usual little group of larry-haters, show me one person who has called me a liar in this thread. You, maybe Jack, maybe Apple, or maybe Ax. No one else. Watching that little group say it hardly constitutes "widespread opinion".

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Mar 7 2008, 05:32 AM
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Mar 7 2008, 02:06 AM
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Mar 7 2008, 08:10 AM
Think what you will, Larry, but I see you are the only one here stating that he is disrespecting anybody. Everyone else says that they realize that Crash has a certain personality and that they let well enough alone and skip over it to the next thing. You do NOT have to open any thread that you don't want to. When you see a thread that was created by Crash, simply DO NOT OPEN IT. Nobody is forcing you to do so, it is of your own free will.

jgoo, I also think that Crash is disrespectful, and if you will excuse me, "certain personality," my derriere. He is consistently disrespectful and vulgar towards women, about women, towards us as the forum (Frank got it spot on when he described Crash's antics as treating us like an ant farm) and I feel that he has nothing of value to add, which I have stated before. Others have questioned my right to judge whether or not someone's posts add to this forum. Although I certainly don't agree with his language or style, which I have also stated before, Larry points out that posts about masterbation and the daily posts about his damned woman are not really quality reading material.

Regarding Crash's reply to Peggy, at the time I thought it was very thoughtless. She - as have we all - tolerated months of women threads and in this one posted a gentle reminder that he could perhaps remember that there are other important and more serious things to think about, and whilst his words were certainly not disrepectful, his general attitude and the way he immediately swung the topic back onto himself with not so much as an acknowledgement for Peggy's hint, was.

Crash says that his women remarks are obviously in jest. I do not get this evidence; I find them vile. He posted something to me a while ago regarding my boyfriend and likening him to "any other guy" out there, meaning he is as vile as Crash. Posts like this and his daily rubbish littering the forum, especially as he knows that we do not appreciate them, do nothing for this place. I would be ashamed to invite my friends here with page 1 being so evidently littered with carp.

As for not opening any of his threads: why should we have to avoid his threads? You say, "When you see a thread that was created by Crash, simply DO NOT OPEN IT." This implies that you and others acknowledge that the content of the said thread is not worth reading. In this case, why is it still there? I'd like to think that this is a place where I can read and contribute to anything here, and when a surprising proportion of threads are started by Crash, that narrows my choices down slightly, which I do not appreciate.

I agree with all that you've written here, Sarah.

I agree as well. Very much so.
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Mar 7 2008, 08:34 AM
You're bobbing and weaving, Quirt. Outside of the usual little group of larry-haters, show me one person who has called me a liar in this thread. You, maybe Jack, maybe Apple, or maybe Ax. No one else. Watching that little group say it hardly constitutes "widespread opinion".

Me, Crash, Ax, apple. And didn't jgoo imply it, or say it, too?

That's a fairly diverse group. And, of the percentage of people who have posted in this thread, a fairly sizeable percentage.

You lied. Really, I can't see how that's disputable. You accused Crash of starting the "Crast Test" puppet, when you knew he didn't.

It's comical how, every time you're backed into a corner, you come out with your "bobbing and weaving" line. You're the one who's bobbing and weaving. People who used to like you are calling you names. Not a single person is sticking up for your conduct in creating the Crash Test puppet ... even Jolly said it was out of line ... except me, and not a single person has jumped in to defend your lying.

You're alone at the end of a limb, and you just don't know it.
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Whatever side one comes down on, and it is difficult for me to determine that even for myself, the question of to Crash or not to Crash is by no means important enough for THIS brouhaha.

I believe he is what both sides have claimed - real and imaginary. We all have our own personal mythology, but maybe his is a little bigger. Perhaps somewhat amorphous, and certainly a bit deranged. But in any event, he isn't really harming anyone save possibly himself.

This is all a tempest in a teapot. His posts are no more demeaning to women than a lot of the wolf whistles and boob posts all of us, myself included, participate in.

TNCR is supposed to be the Wild West Saloon. So let the crazy sheep farmer have his drink. He's in the mood for love and the sheep aren't gonna wait all night.
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Me, Crash, Ax, apple. And didn't jgoo imply it, or say it, too?

That's a fairly diverse group.


You think so???????? Then you are quite a fool, aren't you?

As to the rest of your little rant, typical "Quirtism" bullsh!t.
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Mar 7 2008, 08:44 AM

TNCR is supposed to be the Wild West Saloon.


Exactly.

And this is another memorable romp in the sawdust.

I’m think I’ll stay out of the mud-slinging on this one. The evidence for and against the combatants is fairly well documented.

I would like to once again complement the moderators for their fine work. They should continue to not have rules and to do whatever they think is the right thing to do.
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