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Hey Deb; ...Opera comment
Topic Started: Jan 12 2008, 05:05 PM (265 Views)
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Deb,

On TV I caught a clip of an opera where I believe Luciana Serra was giving a solo (aria?). I think the opera was from the year 1981 and she was playing some kind of doll. There's a chance Pavarotti was also in it.

Anyway...my point was that she was hitting SO many notes so clearly and even a couple of those UBER-HIGH (high C?) notes.

Just astonishing a voice can have such a range and hit notes so cleanly and quickly.

Ok, back to being a straight male who hates opera.
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DivaDeb
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Writiing this post from my Blackberry! The opera you saw was Tales of Hoffmann. The character was Olympia the doll. The tp notes in Olympia's aria are e flats, a m3rd above high C...sometimes there is also a g above that on the final cadenza. That is how I do it. Glad you liked it!
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And you just KNOW this stuff off teh top of your head?!?!?!

Deb, my dear, you are an opera machine. Bravissimo!
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Mikhailoh
Jan 12 2008, 08:46 PM
And you just KNOW this stuff off teh top of your head?!?!?!

Deb, my dear, you are an opera machine. Bravissimo!

Ahem...

Bravissima!

(where's that "neener" smilie when I need it?)
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That was an easy one since it's such a distinctive character and is a role I have done.
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Straight males can like opera. It is OK.

Simply watch for the cracked notes like you watch for a car hitting the wall in a NASCAR race.


Enjoy the big bass notes like they are the cojones of a Dale Sr. Once saw a bass carry the lowest note I ever heard a human do walk off the stage booming the big low note.

Saw both of these in one opera in Santa Fe. It was Rigoletto.

Don't, however, dress like the characters in the opera you are going to see. That is not heterosexual behavior.
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Jan 12 2008, 09:03 PM
Straight males can like opera. It is OK.

Simply watch for the cracked notes.........(snip).......Don't, however, dress like the characters in the opera you are going to see. That is not heterosexual behavior.

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Nope - that dressing up is more for this show

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Here is my current favorite Olympia, Natalie Dessay, singing this beastly aria in a veritable wind storm at Orange (in a truly bizarre production, but geez...what a performance, tons of variation in the cadenzi and she's traipsing all over the stage to boot)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=51...earch&plindex=6

And here she is again, same aria, different production...and massively pregnant!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=51...earch&plindex=6
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Wow, that sounds insanely difficult.

Deb, we want to hear YOU singing it!

Oh, and can you post that link of the one where she's pregnant? It seems you posted the other one twice by mistake.
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DivaDeb
Jan 12 2008, 10:34 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=51...earch&plindex=6

And here she is again, same aria, different production...and massively pregnant!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=51...earch&plindex=6

Deb, those two look like the same videos to me. :shrug:
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sorry about that, that was neither of the versions I was describing...same chick, here is the pregnant version:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5BxQq8Fnpnw

and here is the bizarro version from Orange, by far the most florid rendition:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5wpBoEhxDk&feature=related
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Jan 12 2008, 09:41 PM
Writiing this post from my Blackberry! The opera you saw was Tales of Hoffmann. The character was Olympia the doll. The tp notes in Olympia's aria are e flats, a m3rd above high C...sometimes there is also a g above that on the final cadenza. That is how I do it. Glad you liked it!

Wow - I knew you might know what I was talking about, but that knowledge was highly impressive! From a blackberry no less!

I found the performance amazing because (I might not explain this correctly) but with many singers (myself included) there is a 1/100th of a second before each note where your voice adjusts to hit the tone accurately. She, however, was hitting those notes all over the place and perfectly accurate. It's crazy how someone can train their voice so well. For example, for most of us mortals, if someone played a note on the piano and we were asked to whistle that tone...we all could, but we would have that 1/100th of a second period where our whistle adjusted to the right note.

Anyway...thanks for the response!
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Jan 13 2008, 12:09 AM
sorry about that, that was neither of the versions I was describing...same chick, here is the pregnant version:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5BxQq8Fnpnw

and here is the bizarro version from Orange, by far the most florid rendition:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5wpBoEhxDk&feature=related

At about 2:50 in the "bizarro" version, she looks like she's about to be blown away. :lol:
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Jan 12 2008, 10:03 PM
Don't, however, dress like the characters in the opera you are going to see. That is not heterosexual behavior.

I did NOT see that coming! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Jan 13 2008, 12:17 AM
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Jan 13 2008, 12:09 AM
sorry about that, that was neither of the versions I was describing...same chick, here is the pregnant version:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5BxQq8Fnpnw

and here is the bizarro version from Orange, by far the most florid rendition:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5wpBoEhxDk&feature=related

At about 2:50 in the "bizarro" version, she looks like she's about to be blown away. :lol:

I know it...every video I've ever seen made at the Festival in Orange, it's been blowing a gale.

One of my favorite ever performances is Montserrat Caballe singing Casta Diva from Bellini's Norma in Orange, in the wind.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FIQQv39dcNE
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I saw a production of Tales of Hoffman once where one soprano sang the lead soprano roles of each of the 4 "tales." I wonder how common that is.
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It's pretty common as it was Offenbach's intent that the four soprano roles were performed by the same singer.

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Jan 13 2008, 07:08 AM
It's pretty common as it was Offenbach's intent that the four soprano roles were performed by the same singer.

Thanks - I only saw that one production of it.
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