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Massive US Airstrikes south of Baghdad; ..."cripple remaining insurgents"
Topic Started: Jan 10 2008, 02:42 PM (631 Views)
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JBryan
Jan 11 2008, 05:50 AM
The war against Iraq *is* over. The war *in* Iraq is not but it is not against Iraq.

Okay, fun with semantics. The point is, there's a war going on, it's real and people are dying.


I see nothing nit-picky about pointing out that we are not at war with Iraq (the clear meaning of "war against Iraq").
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In fact, we have not been at war with Iraq since April 2003.
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Jan 11 2008, 05:55 AM
I see nothing nit-picky about pointing out that we are not at war with Iraq (the clear meaning of "war against Iraq").

It's easier to say than "the war against terrorist forces, many of which are in Iraq and surrounding territories," and most people know what you really mean when you shorten it up. Either way, yes you're right, but I'll continue to give up some clarity in order to be more concise.
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"War in Iraq" sounds fairly concise to me. Even more so than your apparent preference.
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Jan 11 2008, 06:09 AM
"War in Iraq" sounds fairly concise to me. Even more so than your apparent preference.

Eh, to each their own I suppose. :shrug:
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Jan 11 2008, 08:46 AM
Seems like we're doing that fairly well, too.

I heard on the radio this morning that the hot-bed-of-death "Anbar Province" can now be turned over to the Iraqis since it's relatively peaceful now? If so, that's amazing.
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Yes. It is the next province to be turned over - I forget whether it is this month or last. There was a thread about it last week or so.
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Jan 11 2008, 06:48 AM
Mikhailoh
Jan 11 2008, 08:46 AM
Seems like we're doing that fairly well, too.

I heard on the radio this morning that the hot-bed-of-death "Anbar Province" can now be turned over to the Iraqis since it's relatively peaceful now? If so, that's amazing.

Nahh, it makes sense. It's just like what they're doing with Oxon Hill and the Naval Yard. They'll have metro stops and their own beltway exit in no time. I just hope it doesn't clutter up 95 any more than it already is.

Wait, what?
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I wonder what the relationship between the air strikes and this story is:

Iraqi official says Al-Quaeda is an open book.

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Baghdad : The Interior Ministry announced Friday that al-Qaeda in Iraq has been successfully penetrated by means of a recently formed government security apparatus and is virtually an "open book," confirming that the sectarian sedition in the country was at the end of its rope.

Major General Abdul Karim Khalaf, director of operations at the Interior Ministry, told KUNA here "we have succeeded in establishing a capable intelligence apparatus to penetrate the al-Qaeda organization in Iraq and all armed groups targeting Iraqi national security." He said emphatically that the sectarian sedition in Iraq has virtually ended, adding that the new intelligence apparatus is able to achieve its objectives regarding all armed groups operating in Iraq.

He went on to say that "al-Qaeda is now an open book for us, now that we have succeeded in penetrating it." Khalaf did not reveal the extent of al-Qaeda's reach in Iraq but asserted that trained Iraqi security elements currently operate under cover within this terrorist organization which he said will be dismantled soon.

Iraqi security forces had announced during the past 48 hours the arrest of the mastermind behind the second Samarra explosions and the killing of Abu Qataadah al-Saudi (who was one of the most prominent leaders of al-Qaeda in Iraq) in a military operation in south-west Samarra.

The joint Iraqi and American forces killed at the end of last month Abu Abdullah al-Zubai, who was the regional commander or "Prince" for al-Qaeda for the region extending from west of Baghdad to the east of Fallujah.

Meanwhile US fighter jets yesterday in coordination with Iraqi forces shelled about 50 strongholds of al-Qaeda in the Arab-Jabbour area south of the capital.

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They have penetrated al-Qaeda. Hopefully, they used Icy-Hot for lube.
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