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| Frank_W | Jan 10 2008, 11:11 AM Post #26 |
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Upbringing is only partially responsible for it. I know a couple of people who were brought up in alcoholic or drug-problem homes, by parents who were... ah... less than model citizens, who grew up to be very moral, very principled, and very self-controlled. Everyone knows that the worst kids in town, are the pastor's kids. Entirely too much is made of how much influence a parent has on a child.
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| Aqua Letifer | Jan 10 2008, 11:14 AM Post #27 |
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Moonbat,
I really don’t know what to say. Isn’t it obvious that you can either adopt the ethical ideas you were exposed to through upbringing or actively pursue others? Why is choice being thrown out here?
Yes, those examples are a product of the norms of particular cultural environments. But again, as a person of independent thought, you can choose to adopt or reject such attitudes. |
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| Moonbat | Jan 10 2008, 01:58 PM Post #28 |
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People can choose one way or another and there are many factors that weigh in on which choices are ultimately made. Before i did not distinguish between cultural environment and upbringing but perhaps that's not quite right, and one should restrict "upbringing" to mean only the way parents interact with their children prior to say the age of 18. Even with that restriction one would expect upbringing to have a significant effect, that is one would expect it to be a factor influencing various choices. If one was to compare a population of 18 year olds who had been in significantly abusive environments to a population of 18 year olds who had been in nurturing environments one would anticipate statistically significant differences in attitudes towards social interaction and many questions of ethics. That does not mean that a given individual who has had X upbringing will necessarily have Y attitudes to ethics. As there are many factors involved it's quite plausible for someone to have completely different upbringings yet have practically identical attitudes towards ethics. (and indeed it seems like there are many examples of exactly that).
There is no such thing as truly independent thought (in the sense you seem to mean it). If choices were truly independent of factors like cultural environment then there would be no correlation between the two. |
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