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Would you give money to her?
Topic Started: Dec 6 2007, 10:53 AM (439 Views)
kathyk
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Speaking of MAS's and Salvation Army, I witnessed this the other day. A Salvation Army lady perched in front of a store, ringing her bell with her bucket, the whole while talking on her cell phone - and I mean from the time I entered the store until about 45 mintues later when I left.

I generally throw some change into their buckets, but this totally turned me off. If she didn't have the coutesy to give people at least her eye contact and a hello, I was not about to give her any of my attention, let alone money. I thought that she did the Salvation Army a huge disservice.
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Aqua Letifer
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I agree, that's definitely a jerk thing to do.

Same goes for people who are in line at the grocery store or in a fast food place, talking on their cell phones. Whatever it is, it can wait.
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I have a picture I took at the Shaolin Temple of a monk talking on a cell phone. Maybe he was talking to one of these people.
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JBryan
Dec 6 2007, 10:57 AM
I have a picture I took at the Shaolin Temple of a monk talking on a cell phone. Maybe he was talking to one of these people.

That's awesome!
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No, absolutely not.

If I'm on a call in the supermarket and I'm queuing, if it can't wait, I feel terribly embarassed.

I thought this was a thread about Crash's woman! (Again, the answer is no).
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I thought it was about crash's woman too.
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kathyk
Dec 6 2007, 10:53 AM
Speaking of MAS's and Salvation Army, I witnessed this the other day.  A Salvation Army lady perched in front of a store, ringing her bell with her bucket, the whole while talking on her cell phone - and I mean from the time I entered the store until about 45 mintues later when I left.

I generally throw some change into their buckets, but this totally turned me off.  If she didn't have the coutesy to give people at least her eye contact and a hello, I was not about to give her any of my attention, let alone money.  I thought that she did the Salvation Army a huge disservice.

Maybe she was saving a soul. :shrug:
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kenny
Dec 6 2007, 11:30 AM

Maybe she was saving a soul. :shrug:

How many souls have you tried to save over the phone?
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Couldn't she do that in her own time?
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KK: Did you vote in my Annual Salvation Army Bellringer Poll?
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kathyk
Dec 6 2007, 01:53 PM
Speaking of MAS's and Salvation Army, I witnessed this the other day.  A Salvation Army lady perched in front of a store, ringing her bell with her bucket, the whole while talking on her cell phone - and I mean from the time I entered the store until about 45 mintues later when I left.

I generally throw some change into their buckets, but this totally turned me off.  If she didn't have the coutesy to give people at least her eye contact and a hello, I was not about to give her any of my attention, let alone money.  I thought that she did the Salvation Army a huge disservice.

While a bit personally rude and unprofessional, it wouldn't affect at all my potential donation. The donation and the charity doesn't change (no pun intended) and when I donate, I'm not giving money because someone is standing outside, it's because the money goes to help the less fortunate.

I could see how it's a turn-off, but just remember that the charity and donation remains the same, no matter how odd the bell ringer is.
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kathyk
Dec 6 2007, 02:53 PM
Speaking of MAS's and Salvation Army, I witnessed this the other day. A Salvation Army lady perched in front of a store, ringing her bell with her bucket, the whole while talking on her cell phone - and I mean from the time I entered the store until about 45 mintues later when I left.

I generally throw some change into their buckets, but this totally turned me off. If she didn't have the coutesy to give people at least her eye contact and a hello, I was not about to give her any of my attention, let alone money. I thought that she did the Salvation Army a huge disservice.

I probably wouldn't have given her anything either. Those kinds of things tick me off sometimes to the point where I'll write the company.

I called my doctor's office the other day for the name of a doctor he had given me a couple of months ago. I lost the number and decided to call his office for it. This was the conversation:

Me "Hi, I'm Peggy Lee and I'm a patient of Doctor H----------'s. He had given me the name of a gynecologist and I lost the number. Could you, please, help me?"

Nurse/Receptionist "Doctor C. D----------"

Me "No, that wasn't it. I'm familiar with her but want to try someone different. I believe he gave me an Hispanic name."

Nurse/Receptionist "Well... you can always look in the phone book."

Me "Could you ask the doctor, please? If you have to you can call me back."

Nurse/Receptionist "(big sigh) What's your name again?"

Now I know the doctor's offices are busy now. Especially this time of year, down here. I wasn't expecting an answer right away. I assumed she'd have to ask the good doc and then would call me back. But, I was ticked about the "you can always look in the phone book."

I haven't reported her. But I was sure tempted.

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Dec 6 2007, 01:59 PM
no matter how odd the bell ringer is.

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Does the name Quasimodo ring a bell?
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Why does it matter what the person minding the pot is doing, Scrooge Kathy?

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If you had put a quarter in the pot you might have been surprised by a nice smile and a thank you.

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Or maybe volunteer to ring a bell....
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Mikhailoh
Dec 6 2007, 01:32 PM
Why does it matter what the person minding the pot is doing, Scrooge Kathy?

Because we're human beings, and we do irrational crap like this every freaking day. ^_^

To be less inclined to help someone if they're being a jerk is irrational human nature.
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justme
Dec 6 2007, 05:05 PM
I called my doctor's office the other day for the name of a doctor he had given me a couple of months ago. I lost the number and decided to call his office for it. This was the conversation:

Me "Hi, I'm Peggy Lee and I'm a patient of Doctor H----------'s. He had given me the name of a gynecologist and I lost the number. Could you, please, help me?"

Nurse/Receptionist "Doctor C. D----------"

Me "No, that wasn't it. I'm familiar with her but want to try someone different. I believe he gave me an Hispanic name."

Nurse/Receptionist "Well... you can always look in the phone book."

Me "Could you ask the doctor, please? If you have to you can call me back."

Nurse/Receptionist "(big sigh) What's your name again?"

Someone called the library last week to ask when the composer Ginastera died. I went to google.com, searched for "Ginastera", and read his death-year off the first search result (wikipedia).

It's a piece of cake... took me 20 seconds... there was no reason he needed to call. But there was no reason for me to tell him that.

And I learned that Ginastera died in 1983.

and the caller was very thankful.
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Mikhailoh
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You're not helping her. Whether she's haranguing passers by or talking on her phone, she's the volunteer out there collecting money to help others.

Your feelings about what she is doing are [Vulcan mode] illogical. [/Vulcan mode]
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pianojerome
Dec 6 2007, 06:17 PM
there was no reason he needed to call. But there was no reason for me to tell him that.

Maybe he doesn't have a computer?
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Riley
Dec 6 2007, 07:30 PM
pianojerome
Dec 6 2007, 06:17 PM
there was no reason he needed to call.  But there was no reason for me to tell him that.

Maybe he doesn't have a computer?

He's a university professor, putting together some sort of program. He knew the birth-year, but not the death-year.
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pianojerome
Dec 6 2007, 03:17 PM
justme
Dec 6 2007, 05:05 PM
I called my doctor's office the other day for the name of a doctor he had given me a couple of months ago. I lost the number and decided to call his office for it. This was the conversation:

Me "Hi, I'm Peggy Lee and I'm a patient of Doctor H----------'s. He had given me the name of a gynecologist and I lost the number. Could you, please, help me?"

Nurse/Receptionist "Doctor C. D----------"

Me "No, that wasn't it. I'm familiar with her but want to try someone different. I believe he gave me an Hispanic name."

Nurse/Receptionist "Well... you can always look in the phone book."

Me "Could you ask the doctor, please? If you have to you can call me back."

Nurse/Receptionist "(big sigh) What's your name again?"

Someone called the library last week to ask when the composer Ginastera died. I went to google.com, searched for "Ginastera", and read his death-year off the first search result (wikipedia).

It's a piece of cake... took me 20 seconds... there was no reason he needed to call. But there was no reason for me to tell him that.

And I learned that Ginastera died in 1983.

and the caller was very thankful.

Do you work in the library?
Sorry to be a stickler, but that's why people who are not professional librarians should not be answering reference questions.

If you have authoratative sources like Groves, and Harvard Biographical Dictionary of Music on hand, you should be using those sources to answer questions - especially in an academic setting.
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If she can't be arsed to keep her personal calls to herself whilst on a job (and it was a personal call, because if it had been a call on behalf of the SA she would not have been required to talk for 45 minutes whilst chugging), she reflects an incredibly bad professional image upon herself and the association she works for. Ergo, I cannot be arsed to give money in return for slack chugging.
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Exactly. I have no less regard for Salvation Army, but I'd be damned if I'd reward this woman for her rudeness. Even though the money wouldn't be for her, I'm sure these people feel some gratification every time they hear that clink in their bucket. By walking by her as though she was invisible, I wanted to send her a message (hopefully other people did the same) and maybe she'll put two and two together after she's stood there yacking on her phone, in the cold all day, with very little to take back to the mother ship.

As to being unfair to Salvation Army. I'll be sure to make it up and give twice as much to the next, cordial bell ringer. Believe me, we have a lot of very odd looking ones, but that doesn't bother me a bit as long as they're willing to engage just a tad with passersby.

IT, I hadn't seen your poll, but I"ll go now to throw in my two cents.

Sorry to disappoint, Crash. I'm already fully tapped out for handouts to young adults.
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Well isn't that heartwarming in the holiday spirit.
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What, giving to Salvation Army or being annoyed by people who expect to get donations while they're engrossed in their own cell phone conversations?
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