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For those with birds
Topic Started: Aug 10 2007, 05:36 AM (369 Views)
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This morning our house guest Sparky the lovebird decided to give himself a bath in his water dish. Is this normal or should I call the owner or vet?
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This is normal.
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

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Completely normal. Sidney, our Macaw, tries to bathe in his water bowl, but it's too small. Whenever he does that, we take him to the sink where he enjoys a good shower.
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Our bluejay takes a dip in his water a couple of times a week. Sometimes I will set a shallow dish full of water out on the floor so he can get a really good spritz.
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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Ok cool. I was worried. I turned the thermostat a little higher so he would not get cold.
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Birds tolerate cold weather well. As long as they are not in a draft that will expose their skin, cold temps, even down to the 50's are not a problem.
A guide to GKSR: Click

"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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Aug 10 2007, 04:37 PM
our Macaw,

G.K. you do have a parrot ? Does he speak, curse, sing ? Did you teach him french and latin ?
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Thanks George. I don't know much about birds.
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kenny
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If the bird can fly here are a few things to consider:

Supervise the bird when free

Keep the drapes shut and cover mirrors to prevent a broken neck

Open doors and windows are obviously taboo

Keep the toilet seat down to prevent drowning

Some house plants are poisinous

Cooking stoves can cook birdies too

Many birds love to chew - lead paint is in any home older than 1975 or so
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Aug 10 2007, 04:57 PM
If the bird can fly here are a few things:

Supervise the bird when free


Or have its wings cut regularly
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kenny
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Radu
Aug 10 2007, 05:59 AM
kenny
Aug 10 2007, 04:57 PM
If the bird can fly here are a few things:

Supervise the bird when free


Or have its wings cut regularly

That is what I have always done with my birds. (But I think the bird in question is being babysitted (babysat?) - I would not clip somebody else's bird's wings.

Some bird people strongly oppose this.

Controversy swirles.
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Thanks for the advice Kenny and Radu. Before they left on vacation, his parents clipped his wings for us. Also, when the dog is in the house he is confined to one room so Pepper doesn't try to kill him. As far as windows and mirrors, he pretty much stays on us. He likes to be petted and kissed and loved. :wub:
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We clipped our bird's wings once and that was the angriest I have ever seen him. He is never more happy than when he can follow my wife around like a little dog. I am the one who has to run around taking care of all the sorts of things Kenny mentioned. Anyway, he is only out a couple of hours at night so it isn't too bad.
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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Radu
Aug 10 2007, 08:46 AM
George K
Aug 10 2007, 04:37 PM
our Macaw,

G.K. you do have a parrot ? Does he speak, curse, sing ? Did you teach him french and latin ?

Radu, meet Sidney.


Sidney in a sack


Sidney takes a shower.

Oh, and teflon can be fatal to birds. If you heat a teflon pan with nothing in it, it releases fumes which can be fatal in minutes. If you use teflon cookware, be sure that there's always something in the pan when you heat it.
A guide to GKSR: Click

"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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kenny
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Since we are on the subject.
I have had several birds.
Each one more perfect than the one before - more quiet, loving and affectionate but not demanding, more inquisitive but not troublesome.
I attribute this to trying to always learn about my feathered friends needs so I can meet them.

I have always kept their wings clipped from the moment I get them.
Now I'd only acquire a bird directly from the breeder that clips the wings when they first grow so the bird never knows flight and suffers from its absence.

I think ability to fly *greatly* affects a bird's psychology.
Dependence on a human for transport *greatly* affects the relationship.

I've noticed when the flight feathers begin to grow back the sweet disposition gradully fades away and only returns after clipping the wings.

2 cents.
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Kenny - We've noticed when we clip our macaw's wings, it always takes him down a notch or two. We take Toby outside a lot though so we make sure he's clipped.

We've also had to file a few razor sharp points off his toenails. He HATES it so we only do it when one cracks or something. He's deathly afraid of nail files. All you have to do is show him a nail file and he starts behaving. :lol:

Hey George, does your macaw make out with any of his toys?? Toby has a serious crush on one of his rope toys. It's really quite embarassing to watch him with it.
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Aug 10 2007, 09:55 AM
Hey George, does your macaw make out with any of his toys?? Toby has a serious crush on one of his rope toys.

Oh, yeah. He has a favorite rope toy as well. But, he'll puke for anything - even a potato chip bag!
A guide to GKSR: Click

"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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His current girlfriend... (poor kid!)

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kenny
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Aug 10 2007, 06:55 AM
Kenny - We've noticed when we clip our macaw's wings, it always takes him down a notch or two.  We take Toby outside a lot though so we make sure he's clipped. 

We've also had to file a few razor sharp points off his toenails.  He HATES it so we only do it when one cracks or something.  He's deathly afraid of nail files.  All you have to do is show him a nail file and he starts behaving.  :lol:

Hey George, does your macaw make out with any of his toys??  Toby has a serious crush on one of his rope toys.  It's really quite embarrassing to watch him with it.

Bird loose outside?
Yikes.
Danger Danger.

Hmmm.

Some clip only the primary wing feathers (the long outer ones)
Some clip only the secondary (that row of shorter inner ones)
Some clip them both.

Even then the bird may not be 100% safe if taken outside.
I've read in a panicked emergency (such as a hawk suddenly passing overhead) a bird with both wings clipped has enough adrenaline to power a flight over a fence and into the mouth of the neighbor's dog, or into moving traffic.

This is why some people feel birds taken outside should have only one wing clipped.
This makes the bird unable to do anything but spiral right to the ground which, outside, may be comparatively safe.

There is tons of advice all over the Internet about wing clipping.

I'm afraid that makes 4 cents.
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kenny
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Jodi you bird is sooo beautiful!!!
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Aug 10 2007, 07:06 AM
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Aug 10 2007, 06:55 AM
Kenny - We've noticed when we clip our macaw's wings, it always takes him down a notch or two.  We take Toby outside a lot though so we make sure he's clipped. 

We've also had to file a few razor sharp points off his toenails.  He HATES it so we only do it when one cracks or something.  He's deathly afraid of nail files.  All you have to do is show him a nail file and he starts behaving.  :lol:

Hey George, does your macaw make out with any of his toys??  Toby has a serious crush on one of his rope toys.  It's really quite embarrassing to watch him with it.

Bird loose outside?
Yikes.
Danger Danger.

Hmmm.

Some clip only the primary wing feathers (the long outer ones)
Some clip only the secondary (that row of shorter inner ones)
Some clip them both.

Even then the bird may not be 100% safe if taken outside.
I've read in a panicked emergency (such as a hawk suddenly passing overhead) a bird with both wings clipped has enough adrenaline to power a flight over a fence and into the mouth of the neighbor's dog, or into moving traffic.

This is why some people feel birds taken outside should have only one wing clipped.
This makes the bird unable to do anything but spiral right to the ground which, outside, may be comparatively safe.

I'm afraid that makes 4 cents.

I've had this conversation many times! :lol:

He's not loose outside, we're always with him. We're fully aware of the dangers. There are dangers inside the house too. They are never 100% safe. We fully clip him. Toby goes lots of places with us... hiking, local movie store, Lowes, etc. We live in a very rural area so no worries about traffic, dogs, etc. Hawks are our main concern.

I would NEVER clip just one wing. Bad idea. They are more likely to lose control and balance and will not be able to land properly.
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Aug 10 2007, 07:12 AM
Jodi you bird is sooo beautiful!!!

Thank you!
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My friend takes Sparky outside too. She told me before they left that they would make sure to clip the wings so when I took him outside he wouldn't try to fly. I told her no worries there, he will definitely not be going outside. I'm not that comfortable with him. :lol:
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Aren't you all scared of their beaks? They are both very beautiful birds!
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