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| We're off!; in defense of liberty & the constitution | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 9 2007, 11:38 AM (152 Views) | |
| Mark | Aug 9 2007, 11:38 AM Post #1 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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http://eventful.com/events/E0-001-005531843-0#event-details My two oldest daughters and I are leaving right now. Taking the back roads. About 166 miles and 3-3.5 hours driving time each way. Getting them involved in the process. Educate! Teach your children well. |
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| ivorythumper | Aug 9 2007, 12:51 PM Post #2 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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You who are on the roadMust have a code that you can live by And so become yourself Because the past is just a good bye. Teach your children well, Their father's hell did slowly go by, And feed them on your dreams The one they picked, the one you'll know by. Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry, So just look at them and sigh and know they love you. And you, of tender years, Can't know the fears that your elders grew by, And so please help them with your youth, They seek the truth before they can die. Teach your parents well, Their children's hell will slowly go by, And feed them on your dreams The one they picked, the one you'll know by. Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry, So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.
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| The dogma lives loudly within me. | |
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| TomK | Aug 9 2007, 12:54 PM Post #3 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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DAMN Mark! I thought you'd be off to the Great North Woods for some survival training eating bear meat or something, not the Crowne Plaza Five Seasons Hotel! :lol: Have fun, report back. |
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| Mark | Aug 9 2007, 11:18 PM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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We just got back home. It's 1:50 AM and man am I tired! A great rally. Met up with a bunch of people in front of the venue and for about an hour we held signs and waved to cars passing by. Quite a few horns sounding with "thumbs up" signs! It was great! Dr. Paul made a great speech as usual. We sat next to a couple from the liberal side of the democratic party who had come to get some issues straight. All they could talk about was "Universal Health Care" and asked me what Dr. Paul's position was on that topic. I told them that I could not speak for Dr. Paul and that they would have to ask him that question personally. ![]() He started out by very graciously introducing his wife who was sitting in the front row. Dr. Paul does not plan on slashing any domestic welfare programs right off the bat. He would of course like to see us transition away from a welfare state mentality but he understands that a few generations have been brought up to be dependent on the government and he said we need to take care of them as was promised. How to do this? Bring all of our troops home immediately. All of them including the ones in Korea, et al. Use them to help secure our borders. Continue to have a very strong military but use it as the constitution allows, for DEFENSE! not Empire. We could save a few hundred billion a year right off the bat and use those funds to pay down the debt and to shore up Social Security and Medicare while working toward allowing people to have the FREEDOM OF CHOICE to opt out of these programs. The man just exudes integrity. We got to meet him right after his speech. I introduced myself and my daughters and told him we drove 3.5 hours to come to the rally. He asked where we were from and sincerely engaged us. He asked my daughters if they were the ones who told me about him but the were honest (as usual) and said no, that I was teaching them about the true meaning of liberty and the constitution which we had a pocket edition of with us. I told him we would see him in Wisconsin and then we parted company and got back on the road to home. He was busy answering more questions but I made Katie and Elizabeth stand next to him and shot this very quickly with my iPhone.
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| Mikhailoh | Aug 10 2007, 03:46 AM Post #5 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Nature abhors a vacuum, and this is especially true of leadership. It's our turn in the barrel, so to speak. But disengaging with the rest of the world is not the path to safety or prosperity for the US, or the rest of the world. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| apple | Aug 10 2007, 04:33 AM Post #6 |
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one of the angels
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oh... i thought you were going to go on the road cross country, door to door. that must have been great. How did the girls like it? |
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| JBryan | Aug 10 2007, 04:42 AM Post #7 |
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I am the grey one
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Great. He wants to gradually transition us away from welfare programs but immediately disengage from the war against radical Islam. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Mark | Aug 10 2007, 07:12 AM Post #8 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Yes! I have done a complete 180 in terms of believing anything Bush and Co say including the reasons why they attack us. And I supported him and voted for him twice. In fact I have not not voted outside the republican party most of my life save a couple of Libertarian votes here and there, and I have never, ever voted for a democrat. The do not attack us for the reasons/lies stated which are simply repeated and reinforced in a brain dead media, until they obviously become truth to some. That included me until very recently. Read the 9-11 Commission Report. We can still go after the radical islamists that attacked us but we do not need to be occupying foreign soil from here to eternity. Dr. Paul is not soft on bringing those persons responsible for 9-11 or any other attacks on America to justice or hunting them down. He will protect this country but not at the expense of our individual freedoms. He is a real conservative JBryan. The people currently in office who call themselves republican sure act more like democrats than any republican I can remember. |
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| JBryan | Aug 10 2007, 07:22 AM Post #9 |
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I am the grey one
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Ron Paul has a lot of good ideas. His ideas on foreign policy are not among them. To believe that you can simply go get the people responsible for 9/11 (didn't most of them die in the attacK?) and call it good ignores some very painful realities. First, there are a whole bunch of people just like them who would like to commit additional 9/11s or worse. Second, a great many of these people are to be found in countries unfriendly to us and certainly not willing to entertain arrest warrants presented by us. These people have declared war on us and serious people are suggesting we treat it as a law enforcement issue. That is just stunning to me. Of course, if you believe all this business of Islamic Jihad has simply been cooked up by our lying government then that lets you off the hook for believing in any serious way of dealing with them. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Mikhailoh | Aug 10 2007, 07:27 AM Post #10 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Sooner or later one must decide what side one is on. The fact that technology has changed and will continue to change the tools the government AND business have to deal with the public by no means implies totalitarianism. You could make the samre argument about many developments throughout history, the banking industry foremost in my mind at the moment. The US government has been thru reductions in civil rights in times that claled for it, but you know what? The right of the individual has still endured. You have to put trust in something sooner or later. Not blind trust. As reagan said, 'trust, but verify'. |
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| Frank_W | Aug 10 2007, 07:44 AM Post #11 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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Beautiful kids, Mark. ![]() Welcome back. |
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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