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Harry Potter naked?
Topic Started: Aug 2 2007, 06:14 PM (2,175 Views)
John D'Oh
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Larry, there was no call to call Daniel a pervert. What he did was pretty silly, but nothing more.
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Axtremus
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TomK
Aug 5 2007, 09:13 AM
Axtremus
Aug 5 2007, 09:11 AM

But you'd agree that no one has yet to call any one who posted pictures (or links to such, or pictures that later got turned into links) of nude women a "pervert," right?

For posting a pic?--what Daniel did was a violation of the rules nothing more.

That, we agree.

Now how do you feel about Larry calling Daniel a "pervert" for violating TNCR rules the manner he did?
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Mikhailoh
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I agree, but when you post things against the rules, deliberatley to provoke, you get what you get.

I don't want Daniel to leave, but I also don't want folks posting hoops for us all to jump through to show how much we care.
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Axtremus
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Mikhailoh
Aug 5 2007, 09:20 AM
I agree, but when you post things against the rules, deliberatley to provoke, you get what you get.

I don't want Daniel to leave, but I also don't want folks posting hoops for us all to jump through to show how much we care.

Mik,

I don't really care about Daniel.
(No offense, Daniel. I barely know ye.)

I am a bit miffed about certain dual-standards that I think I've perceived.

First, about people more readily giving a pass to similar "rule breaking" if the pictures concerned contain nude female rather than male. This is a sexist dual-standard.

Second, about some people (in this case, TomK) more readily giving a pass to similar "unwarranted name calling" if it comes from certain perpetrators (in this case, Larry). This creates an imbalanced environment where certain members are more free to offend other members.

That's why I pushed this subject a bit more than I push other subject. I rarely get into "personality fight," I don't intend to make this a habit. So this shall be the last post I'll make here.
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George K
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I am a bit miffed about certain dual-standards that I think I've perceived.

Though there have been many pictures of scantily clad ladies posted here, I have yet to see one with full frontal nudity. Hell, they get a PG rating, and I've seen things just as suggestive on the non-premium cable channels.

To the best of my recollection, I have yet to see nipple (other than in that statue) or genitalia.

Can anyone point me to a pic that I may have missed?

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Mikhailoh
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No offense, Ax, but the only reason you posted anything was in response to Daniel's 'I'm leaving' post. It had nothing to do with anything else.
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DivaDeb
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For the record, I believe I might have called somebody here a "perv" a time or two. I'm rather hoping that particular jab doesn't end up on the list of "things akin to calling someone a Nazi" on this board. Sheesh...this board is one long string of insults all-day/every-day from at least 75 percent of the regular posters. If we're going to disallow insults, we'll have to disallow them all. If we do that, you guys will be stuck with nothing to read but Jane's and my posts about bugs and flowers.

I'm going out of town for a couple of days. Please, just get this one done and over with before I get back. My birthday's coming up, I'll consider it my present not to come back to 35 threads of 150 posts each about Harry's naked potter. Kiss and make up, or failing that, go sit in time-out until Mommy says you can get up.
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TomK
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Axtremus
Aug 5 2007, 09:30 AM


Second, about some people (in this case, TomK) more readily giving a pass to similar "unwarranted name calling" if it comes from certain perpetrators (in this case, Larry). This creates an imbalanced environment where certain members are more free to offend other members.


Please show me the quote where I said that.
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John D'Oh
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Regarding the double standard applied to photographs, I did exactly the same thing to a picture of a woman that showed a little too much that I did to Daniel's picture. If people want to post topless guys, I'm not going to moderate them. I will moderate topless women (before saving them to disk, obviously), so any double standard is in favour of male pictures.
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Mikhailoh
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Too much introspection is not healthy. Or very interesting.
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John D'Oh
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DivaDeb
Aug 5 2007, 09:34 AM
For the record, I believe I might have called somebody here a "perv" a time or two. I'm rather hoping that particular jab doesn't end up on the list of "things akin to calling someone a Nazi" on this board. Sheesh...this board is one long string of insults all-day/every-day from at least 75 percent of the regular posters. If we're going to disallow insults, we'll have to disallow them all. If we do that, you guys will be stuck with nothing to read but Jane's and my posts about bugs and flowers.

That says it for me.

People who are too sensitive to cope with a few insults should probably avoid the more passionate threads, or alternatively go to an alternate board. I am most definitely not going to spend my time chasing up people who've insulted someone else. I like the board as it is, and I don't think we should change in order to accommodate individual poster's sensitivities.
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DivaDeb
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Axtremus
Aug 5 2007, 08:30 AM
This creates an imbalanced environment where certain members are more free to offend other members.


balderdash

Even a cursory viewing of this board makes it abundantly clear that y'all feel, universally, perfectly comfortable offending each other.
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freedom of speech is more important than freedom of vision.
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Larry
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
DivaDeb
Aug 5 2007, 09:43 AM
Axtremus
Aug 5 2007, 08:30 AM
This creates an imbalanced environment where certain members are more free to offend other members.


balderdash

Even a cursory viewing of this board makes it abundantly clear that y'all feel, universally, perfectly comfortable offending each other.

Absolutely. Daniel is free to call me a pervert any time he pleases. I don't think he'll have as much success with it as I did with him, but hey - that's me.

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George K
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I'm with Quirt on this one. We've always had an open-mouth policy, it seems. Say whatever you want, to whomever, but be prepared to reap the whirlwind when it comes your way. If you can't stand the heat...

On the other hand, I, for one, don't think that full-frontal nudity with exposed genitals of either gender is appropriate, for we like to call ourselves a "family-friendly" forum (notwithstanding what I said above). Many of us tend to access this site from public places, and seeing (as John so quaintly put it) "man-sausage" would certainly raise eyebrows.

Yeah, "David" is full frontal nudity, but there's a difference. He's withstood the test of hundreds of years of art critics and admirers. When that photoshoot from "Equus" meets that standard, get back to me. 'Til then, perhaps we should be a bit more circumspect about what is posted. The solution that we had, namely posting a link, seems to have worked, and you absolutely need to see man-sausage, I'm sure that there are links somewhere on the net that you can use, rather than this place.
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Frank_W
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Darned bunch o' heathen preeee-verts!!!


Daniel, stick around. It's no fun to be so thin-skinned. You are well liked here. On the other hand, if you need to go, take care and we'll catch ya' on the flip-side.

:thumb:

An old piece of Talmudic wisdom: "You do not see things as THEY are. You see things as YOU are."

Sometimes, a simple adjustment of the way we are perceiving things, can make all the difference.

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Aug 5 2007, 05:56 AM
Darned bunch o' heathen preeee-verts!!!


No kidding!

They're all perverts.

Have a smoke!
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Pianolicious
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All this for that????

Interesting how the penis is cast as the most obscene body part. Remember back in the early 1970s when only Hustler showed the vagyna? Playboy wouldn't do it but finally caved.

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Larry
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
Boy, if you can't spell vagina, you surely haven't ever seen one......
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LWpianistin
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Larry
Aug 5 2007, 11:26 AM
Boy, if you can't spell vagina, you surely haven't ever seen one......

:lol:

I was thinking that too.

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LWpianistin
Aug 5 2007, 08:37 AM
Larry
Aug 5 2007, 11:26 AM
Boy, if you can't spell vagina, you surely haven't ever seen one......

:lol:

I was thinking that too.

I think he was making a point. Wymyn have vagynas.
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musicasacra
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ivorythumper
Aug 5 2007, 02:44 PM
LWpianistin
Aug 5 2007, 08:37 AM
Larry
Aug 5 2007, 11:26 AM
Boy, if you can't spell vagina, you surely haven't ever seen one......

:lol:

I was thinking that too.

I think he was making a point. Wymyn have vagynas.

i thought "wymyn" just had hairy legs and hated men.
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musicasacra
Aug 5 2007, 02:47 PM
ivorythumper
Aug 5 2007, 02:44 PM
LWpianistin
Aug 5 2007, 08:37 AM
Larry
Aug 5 2007, 11:26 AM
Boy, if you can't spell vagina, you surely haven't ever seen one......

:lol:

I was thinking that too.

I think he was making a point. Wymyn have vagynas.

i thought "wymyn" just had hairy legs and hated men.

I'd guess that they have those "also", not "just". :eek:
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kenny
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I finally opened this thread.

What a bunch of prudes.
The pic was tasteful.

If it was a woman it would have been no problem.
Double standard.
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Frank_W
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What double standard? If I want to look at nude women, there are plenty of places on the internet to do so. I don't want to see them, here. I don't want to see nude males, either. The rule, as the moderators have defined it, is, "No frontal nudity." That's pretty straightforward. Perhaps you have a different definition of "double standard"? :shrug:
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