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Rev. Jerry Falwell dies; ...found unconscious
Topic Started: May 15 2007, 09:44 AM (2,011 Views)
xenon
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George K brings up an interesting example of the way I see things. Most of the people who "hate" Falwell have never met him. They no nothing of person. The only association they have with him are the quotes, like the ones Jack has posted. Many people may feel, such as homosexuals and pro-choice folk, that Falwell's influence over certain people that they would come into contact with on a daily basis has been completely negative. So when people express happiness at the passing of Falwell, they're probably expressing happiness for an end to, from their perspective, the negative influence he had. Falwell is more of an idea and less of a person, in this sense.
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May 16 2007, 12:30 AM
George K brings up an interesting example of the way I see things.  Most of the people who "hate" Falwell have never met him.  They no nothing of person.  The only association they have with him are the quotes, like the ones Jack has posted.  Many people may feel, such as homosexuals and pro-choice folk, that Falwell's influence over certain people that they would come into contact with on a daily basis has been completely negative.  So when people express happiness at the passing of Falwell, they're probably expressing happiness for an end to, from their perspective, the negative influence he had.  Falwell is more of an idea and less of a person, in this sense.

As much as I would like to hope that you are right, I doubt that they really doing that.
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IT, how could they be doing anything else, when they did not know him.


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xenon
May 16 2007, 03:23 AM
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May 15 2007, 08:15 PM
The Right can hate...but nobody can hate with the utter ferocity of the Left.

I think a few groups in history have out-hated placard toting, slogan shouting Lefties.

True enough, and for those who want to trot out the Spanish Inquisition, et al, - it was card carrying leftists - Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot - that in less than 50 years made pikers of any religion in history in terms of people slain. Maybe all religions combined.
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Overall the Spanish Inquisition killed few people. Its real effectiveness was in enabling the Spanish Crown the means to expropriate property and impoverish its victims and their families.

The real religious bloodbath came in the Thirty Years War that raged throughout most of Western Europe from 1618 - 1648.
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May 16 2007, 01:02 AM
IT, how could they be doing anything else, when they did not know him.
I don't know how liberals justify their hatred of those they disagree with. You'd have to ask Quirt. He calls Cheney the POFD, and thinks him to be downright evil, and I doubt he ever met the man in person.
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May 16 2007, 01:12 PM
I don't know how liberals justify their hatred of those they disagree with.

Exactly the same way conservatives do.
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Hey I think a whole whack of fanatic Muslims are evil. And I've never met them.

As for Falwell he was just a meddlesome, loud mouthed demagogue who made a profitable business of pimping scripture.

Nothing evil or hateful about him.
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LWpianistin
May 16 2007, 01:29 PM
ivorythumper
May 16 2007, 01:12 PM
I don't know how liberals justify their hatred of those they disagree with.

Exactly the same way conservatives do.

No, no, no, you don't understand. It is genetically impossible for conservatives to hate. They have the 'hate' gene removed when they attend their first Massive Right Wing Conspiracy Club meeting. It's normally taken out at the same time that the consciencectomy is conducted, killing two very annoying birds with one stone. Dick Cheney obviously didn't need the second procedure at all due to the fact that it was impractical to ship the main Hubble telescope lense for magnification purposes, but the first little op was conducted anyway.
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May 16 2007, 01:30 PM
As for Falwell he was just a meddlesome, loud mouthed demagogue who made a profitable business of pimping scripture.

Nail head, consider yourself hit.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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May 16 2007, 01:35 PM
LWpianistin
May 16 2007, 01:29 PM
ivorythumper
May 16 2007, 01:12 PM
I don't know how liberals justify their hatred of those they disagree with.

Exactly the same way conservatives do.

No, no, no, you don't understand. It is genetically impossible for conservatives to hate. They have the 'hate' gene removed when they attend their first Massive Right Wing Conspiracy Club meeting. It's normally taken out at the same time that the consciencectomy is conducted, killing two very annoying birds with one stone. Dick Cheney obviously didn't need the second procedure at all due to the fact that it was impractical to ship the main Hubble telescope lense for magnification purposes, but the first little op was conducted anyway.

:lol2:

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Rev. Jerry Falwell dies


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[size=7]Yippie! We can come out now![/size]

Just kidding. RIP
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May 16 2007, 01:47 PM
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Rev. Jerry Falwell dies


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[size=7]Yippie! We can come out now![/size]

Just kidding. RIP

I was SO tempted but I didn't....

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Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter; and with eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations.
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Tolerance, indeed:
Protestors Dance on Grave for Anti-Falwell Memorial

SAN FRANCISCO -- About a dozen people gathered in the Castro District of San Francisco Tuesday evening to mark the death of Jerry Falwell.

Falwell, the folksy, small-town preacher who used the power of television to found the Moral Majority and turn the Christian right into a mighty force in American politics during the Reagan years, died Tuesday at 73.

Michael Petrelis organized the so-called "anti-memorial" and said gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders said would speak out about Falwell's past efforts to demonize the gay community.

A makeshift grave was surrounded by an assortment of signs, rainbow flags and teletubbies dolls at Castro and 18th streets.

One signed read, "Falwell dies, but the rainbow lives."
At least one person danced on the makeshift grave.
Petrelis said he organized the event because Falwell "spent a number of decades working to deny gays full equality."

Falwell Draws Praise From Republicans

Sen. John McCain praised Falwell as "a man of distinguished accomplishment who devoted his life to serving his faith and country."
As McCain and other GOP presidential candidates prepared for a debate, they took time to remember Falwell.

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AlbertaCrude
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People felt the same way in 1559 when Pope Paul IV died.

Now there was one evil SOB.
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Good to see that the loonies are consistent over the last four centuries.
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He said some "far out" things: AIDS is God's revenge on homosexuals, gays and lesbians, and others, were responsible for 9/11. The Antichrist is a Jew already living.

But you know, I think he had a point about purple teletubbies. People laugh at him for that but I think he was right.

I don't know why they would want to dance on his "grave" when he said God wanted to kill them because they were evil and that they caused 9/11.

Hm.

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May 16 2007, 09:00 PM
People felt the same way in 1559 when Pope Paul IV died.

Now there was one evil SOB.

Got him. Quite a catch for me, too. It was a good time then, before printing presses really got popular. I could tell them anything and they'd believe it was gospel.

Got those grave dancers too. That's mortal sin for sure, on a preacher's grave.

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May 16 2007, 10:13 PM
He said some "far out" things: AIDS is God's revenge on homosexuals, gays and lesbians, and others, were responsible for 9/11. The Antichrist is a Jew already living.

But you know, I think he had a point about purple teletubbies. People laugh at him for that but I think he was right.

I don't know why they would want to dance on his "grave" when he said God wanted to kill them because they were evil and that they caused 9/11.

Hm.

You obviously miss the irony of those who call for tolerance dancing on the faux grave of one of their critics.

Hm.
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May 16 2007, 09:19 PM
Got those grave dancers too. That's mortal sin for sure, on a preacher's grave.


I doubt it Belial, Ol' Jerry was a heretic. The dancers are saved.
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This is what I have read for days: others are hateful, others are intolerant. The irony is that Falwell was hateful and intolerant, at least on his worst days when he would have done his cause better to have kept his mouth shut (and who knows what he said that was never reported).

I think the right (if I can make a generalization, the same that was made all day yesterday about "the left") is shocked that Falwell's death has not been met with unadulterated sadness.

Well, he was not a "national" figure, he was on the extreme of the political spectrum. He was a public figure, a divisive one, and a controversial one.

It should not be a surprise if his death is met with some measure of the same qualities.

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Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, pot. They are certainly no better a person than he was.

At least he would not dance on their graves.
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May 16 2007, 11:22 PM
Daniel
May 16 2007, 10:13 PM
He said some "far out" things: AIDS is God's revenge on homosexuals, gays and lesbians, and others, were responsible for 9/11.  The Antichrist is a Jew already living. 

But you know, I think he had a point about purple teletubbies.  People laugh at him for that but I think he was right. 

I don't know why they would want to dance on his "grave" when he said God wanted to kill them because they were evil and that they caused 9/11. 

Hm.

You obviously miss the irony of those who call for tolerance dancing on the faux grave of one of their critics.

Hm.

Yeah...that's pretty sad.
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