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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 27 2007, 12:47 PM (696 Views) | |
| George K | Apr 27 2007, 12:47 PM Post #1 |
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Top Al Qaeda operative taken into US custody The United States has taken into custody a top al-Qaeda operative who plotted to assassinate Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf and other officials, a Pentagon spokesman said Friday. Abd al Hadi al-Iraqi, who was taken to the US navy prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba about a week ago, was intercepted while trying to reach Iraq to take over Al-Qaeda operations and to plot attacks from there against western targets outside Iraq, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said. He is "one of Al-Qaeda's highest ranking and senior operatives at the time of his detention. He is associated with leaders of extremist groups allied with Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and including the Taliban," Whitman said. How big? He is listed 8 lines below bin Laden in this executive order dated Sept 23, 2001. (do you think it's just a co-incidence that this guy's name is "al-Iraqi?" Yeah, probably) ABC reports: Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi is described as al Qaeda's top operational planner in Afghanistan. He was also reportedly planning an assassination attempt on Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf. Officials say he was responsible for several attempted assassinations, including previous attempts on the life of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and cross-border attacks on coalition forces in Afghanistan. He has long-standing ties to the Taliban that go back to the 1990s and acted as a liaison between al Qaeda and the Taliban. Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi was captured by the CIA as he was attempting to travel back to his native country, Iraq. He was going to Iraq, officials say, to "manage" al Qaeda's operations, including plots on Western interests outside of Iraq. He was captured by the CIA in late 2006 and held at a secret CIA detention facility until this week, when he was transferred to Gitmo and Department of Defense custody. During his time with the CIA, Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi was interrogated and revealed useful information about al Qaeda plots, which, officials say, have been disrupted as a result. Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi had met with al Qaeda members in Iran, officials also said. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Kincaid | Apr 27 2007, 12:53 PM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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He's very lucky he's not being handed over (yet) to Pakistan. |
| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| Mikhailoh | Apr 27 2007, 12:54 PM Post #3 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Hot damn!!! Waterboard that sucker. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| George K | Apr 27 2007, 01:02 PM Post #4 |
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"Here's what I would say to you, to the Congress, to the American people, to the president of the United States: I know that this program has saved lives. I know we've disrupted plots," he says. "I know this program alone is worth more than the FBI, the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency put together, have been able to tell us." “I thought about all the people who had died and what we had been through in the months since,” he writes. “What am I doing here? Why me?” Mr. Tenet gives a vigorous defense of the C.I.A.’s program to hold captured Qaeda members in secret overseas jails and to question them with harsh techniques, which he does not explicitly describe. Mr. Tenet expresses puzzlement that, since 2001, Al Qaeda has not sent “suicide bombers to cause chaos in a half-dozen American shopping malls on any given day.” “I do know one thing in my gut,” he writes. “Al Qaeda is here and waiting.” |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| John D'Oh | Apr 27 2007, 02:42 PM Post #5 |
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MAMIL
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Don't be naive, George. You probably think it's a coincidence that the Secretary of Education is called Margaret Spellings, too, or that the head of the Family Planning commission is called Ivor Bignob. OK, I made the last one up. What can I say, I'm a childish imbecile at heart. |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| OperaTenor | Apr 27 2007, 03:15 PM Post #6 |
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Pisa-Carp
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Too bad we haven't gotten that guy eight lines up... |
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| George K | Apr 27 2007, 03:26 PM Post #7 |
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Mohammed Atef - Check Ibn Al-Shaykh al-Libi - Check Abu Zubaydah - Check Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi - Check Tariq Anwar Ahmad al-Sayyid - Check Muhammad Salah - Check Ahmed Adoodie - At large Azheet Mydrowers - At large So far, so good. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Ahmed Adoodie | Apr 27 2007, 03:32 PM Post #8 |
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Junior Carp
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Aha! I am still free! You shall pay, spawn of Satan! |
| Oopsie, I made a doodie! | |
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| TomK | Apr 27 2007, 03:42 PM Post #9 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Wacki Iraqi--next. :lol: |
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| ivorythumper | Apr 27 2007, 04:09 PM Post #10 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Azheet Mydrowers :lol: :lol: :lol: |
| The dogma lives loudly within me. | |
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| George K | Apr 27 2007, 04:10 PM Post #11 |
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I forgot Ibn Pharteen. Actually, the first 6 on that list were really in the executive order. They have been taken care of.
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| George K | Apr 27 2007, 05:02 PM Post #12 |
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Quite Big, it seems: 7/7 'mastermind' is seized in Iraq The al-Qaeda leader who is thought to have devised the plan for the July 7 suicide bombings in London and an array of terrorist plots against Britain has been captured by the Americans. Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi, a former major in Saddam Hussein’s army, was apprehended as he tried to enter Iraq from Iran and was transferred this week to the “high-value detainee programme” at Guantanamo Bay. Abd al-Hadi was taken into CIA custody last year, it emerged from US intelligence sources yesterday, in a move which suggests that he was interrogated for months in a “ghost prison” before being transferred to the internment camp in Cuba. Abd al-Hadi, 45, was regarded as one of al-Qaeda’s most experienced, most intelligent and most ruthless commanders. Senior counter-terrorism sources told The Times that he was the man who, in 2003, identified Britain as the key battleground for exporting al-Qaeda’s holy war to Europe. Abd al-Hadi recognised the potential for turning young Muslim radicals from Britain who wanted to become mujahidin in Afghanistan or Iraq into terrorists who could carry out attacks in their home country. He realised that their knowledge of Britain, possession of British passports and natural command of English made them ideal recruits. After al-Qaeda restructured its operations in Pakistan’s tribal areas he sought out young Britons for instruction at training camps. In late 2004 Abd al-Hadi met Mohammad Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer, from Leeds, at a militant camp in Pakistan and, in the words of a senior investigator, “retasked them” to become suicide bombers. They were sent back to Britain where they led the terrorist cell that carried out the 7/7 bombings, killing 52 Tube and bus passengers. Pakistani intelligence sources said that Abd al-Hadi was also in contact with Rachid Rauf, a Birmingham man now in prison in Pakistan and alleged to be a key figure in last summer’s alleged plot to blow up transatlantic airliners in mid-flight. Abd al-Hadi has also been linked to a number of other foiled al-Qaeda plots to carry out attacks in Britain. But the Security Service, which has previously sent officials to question detainees at Guantanamo Bay, may not have the opportunity to question him directly. The Government’s recently adopted position in favour of closing Guantanamo Bay is likely to act as a bar on agents travelling there. British Intelligence would have to rely on relaying questions it would like asked by American interrogators. Security sources said they assessed Abd al-Hadi as a key operational commander, high up the chain in the al-Qaeda structure who was behind many key plots in the UK. He had a close link with another arrested al-Qaeda figure and, the sources said, would have “a wealth of information”. He is thought to have been in contact with Osama bin Laden before his capture and might be able to provide information about his leader’s whereabouts. Bryan Whitman, a Pentagon spokesman, said that Abd al-Hadi had been classified as a “high-value detainee” at Guantanamo, and joined 14 others, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the 9/11 mastermind, as the most senior terror suspects at the Cuba prison. Mr Whitman refused to say when or where he was captured, or by whom. “Abd al-Hadi was trying to return to his native country, Iraq, to manage al-Qaeda's affairs and possibly focus on operations outside Iraq against Western targets,” Mr Whitman said. He added that he was a key al-Qaeda paramilitary leader in Afghanistan in the late 1990s, and between 2002 and 2004 led efforts to attack US forces in Afghanistan with terrorist units based in Pakistan. In a lecture this week Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, commander of Sctoland Yard’s Counter-Terrorism Command, said that the central al-Qaeda leadership was behind a spate of terror plots against Britain. He said: “We have seen how al-Qaeda has been able to survive a prolonged multinational assault on its structures, personnel and logistics. It has certainly retained its ability to deliver centrally directed attacks here in the UK. In case after case, the hand of core al-Qaeda can be clearly seen.” Sources said last night that few figures had been more important at the centre of the revived al-Qaeda. Abd al-Hadi is credited with forming its alliance with the insurgency in Iraq. US officials said he was associated with leaders of other extremist groups allied with al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan, including the Taleban. Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA’s bin Laden unit, told The Times that catching Abd al-Hadi was important but that it did not spell the end of al-Qaeda. He said Abd al-Hadi had been an important figure in developing al-Qaeda’s strategy in the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan and also helped to redirect its terrorist strategy in Europe. Mr Scheuer, a senior fellow at the Jamestown Foundation in Washington, said: “It is a blow for al-Qaeda, especially in Iraq, where it will have consequences. “But al-Qaeda always plans for succession, and there will have been someone lined up to take his place. It is nonsense to think that al-Qaeda is dead.” |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 27 2007, 05:05 PM Post #13 |
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Cheers
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Osama Bin Laden - at large Ayman Al-Zawahiri - at large so far, ah, not so good. |
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| JBryan | Apr 27 2007, 05:08 PM Post #14 |
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I am the grey one
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He mentioned those two by their code names. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Jolly | Apr 27 2007, 05:28 PM Post #15 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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The surge is not working... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| ivorythumper | Apr 27 2007, 06:39 PM Post #16 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Anyone else notice this? |
| The dogma lives loudly within me. | |
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| JBryan | Apr 27 2007, 06:43 PM Post #17 |
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I am the grey one
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LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA.... |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| ivorythumper | Apr 27 2007, 06:56 PM Post #18 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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| George K | Apr 28 2007, 06:28 AM Post #19 |
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Isn't it interesting that the fact that the mastermind of the London bombing has been caught, and somehow, it escapes the US media radar? |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Mikhailoh | Apr 28 2007, 06:34 AM Post #20 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Quite amazing, actually. One might think that at least the East Coast media might have some passing interest in it. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| JBryan | Apr 28 2007, 06:38 AM Post #21 |
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I am the grey one
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LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA.... |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Jolly | Apr 28 2007, 06:49 AM Post #22 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Repeat after me...There is no bias in the American main stream media! |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 28 2007, 06:59 AM Post #23 |
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Cheers
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In your view, what is the significance of this? |
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| JBryan | Apr 28 2007, 07:07 AM Post #24 |
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I am the grey one
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How about this, for instance:
A major in Saddam's army, even a former major concurrent with Saddam's rule represents a very probable link between the Iraqi government and these groups. If his contacts were post-Saddam then they would not be suspicious but they are not. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 28 2007, 07:13 AM Post #25 |
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The state department says he was a major in Iraq's army "before going to Afghanistan to fight the Soviets". We're talking early to mid 80s, around the time when Rummy and Saddam were photographed shaking hands and smiling. Hardly Saddam's miltary attache to Bin Laden. |
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