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More Republican Ethical Problems
Topic Started: Apr 22 2007, 01:59 AM (311 Views)
QuirtEvans
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...ml?nav=hcmodule
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The abrupt resignations last week of two Republican House members from their sensitive committee assignments have thrust lingering legal and ethics issues back into the limelight, potentially complicating GOP efforts to retake Congress next year.


Looks more look the Washington post is thrusting it into the limelight in their attempt to complicate GOP efforts to retake Congress.

Meanwhile, as these two have resigned their committee seats because of an FBI raid of thier property, William "ice box" Jefferson continues to be appointed to important committees with hardly any media scrutiny. He is mentioned at the end of this article as being called before a grand jury next week but we are not invited to believe this will in any way complicate the Democrat's efforts too retain control of Congress.

This story says more to me about media bias than Republican or Democrat corruption.
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if there is sufficient evidence for investigations and prosecutions, then investigate and prosecute.

I don't give a damn about the politics of Reps vs Dems. But I do want a level playing field, and I would hope that some day the liberals here were as willing to take their own to task. It is a distant memory that any of the Left called attention to their own party's ethical problems. :rolleyes:

(And so much for Quirt's notion that the WH is politically motivated and selective in it's investigations)
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edit... nevermind.
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George K
Apr 22 2007, 11:44 AM
edit... nevermind.

I was going to respond with the AP "Name that Party Smackdown", but you edited! :angry:
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JBryan
Apr 22 2007, 07:41 AM
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The abrupt resignations last week of two Republican House members from their sensitive committee assignments have thrust lingering legal and ethics issues back into the limelight, potentially complicating GOP efforts to retake Congress next year.


Looks more look the Washington post is thrusting it into the limelight in their attempt to complicate GOP efforts to retake Congress.

Meanwhile, as these two have resigned their committee seats because of an FBI raid of thier property, William "ice box" Jefferson continues to be appointed to important committees with hardly any media scrutiny. He is mentioned at the end of this article as being called before a grand jury next week but we are not invited to believe this will in any way complicate the Democrat's efforts too retain control of Congress.

This story says more to me about media bias than Republican or Democrat corruption.

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http://www.rollcall.com/issues/52_115/news/18193-1.html

House Democratic leaders are not expected to pressure embattled Rep. William Jefferson (D-La.) to forfeit his lone remaining committee assignment, even as two Republican lawmakers who similarly face intense FBI scrutiny have relinquished their posts in recent days.
Democratic sources indicated that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is unlikely to ask the Louisiana lawmaker, who is under federal investigation, to give up his seat on the Small Business Committee.

The Louisiana lawmaker has not been indicted in the investigation, but the FBI has asserted it videotaped Jefferson allegedly accepting $100,000 in marked bills from an informant, and a related raid of his home reportedly found $90,000 in cash in his freezer.

The FBI also raided Jefferson’s Congressional office in May 2006, an action that drew criticism of the agency from both Republican and Democratic leaders.

In addition, a former Jefferson aide and a Kentucky businessman have both pleaded guilty in connection with the case, receiving lengthy prison terms.
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George K
Apr 26 2007, 09:49 AM
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/52_115/news/18193-1.html

House Democratic leaders are not expected to pressure embattled Rep. William Jefferson (D-La.) to forfeit his lone remaining committee assignment, even as two Republican lawmakers who similarly face intense FBI scrutiny have relinquished their posts in recent days.
Democratic sources indicated that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is unlikely to ask the Louisiana lawmaker, who is under federal investigation, to give up his seat on the Small Business Committee.

The Louisiana lawmaker has not been indicted in the investigation, but the FBI has asserted it videotaped Jefferson allegedly accepting $100,000 in marked bills from an informant, and a related raid of his home reportedly found $90,000 in cash in his freezer.

The FBI also raided Jefferson’s Congressional office in May 2006, an action that drew criticism of the agency from both Republican and Democratic leaders.

In addition, a former Jefferson aide and a Kentucky businessman have both pleaded guilty in connection with the case, receiving lengthy prison terms.

So why hasn't he been indicted? Can't the supremely confident Bush DoJ bring a case?

Maybe it's all the US Attorney's fault.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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The two Representatives described in the article were not indicted either, yet they stepped down (as they should have). What's your point?
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Apr 26 2007, 09:55 AM
The two Representatives described in the article were not indicted either, yet they stepped down (as they should have). What's your point?

My point is fairly obvious. If he's as guilty as he appears to be, why has no case been brought, after all this time?

It looks awfully bad, but perhaps, just perhaps, it's all smoke, and no fire? Otherwise, why are the Bushies unable to get an indictment going?

If you're so sure he's guilty, why don't you apply for a job at DoJ and bring the indictment? You couldn't do any worse than the guys already there, apparently.
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As much as you like to keep painting this as a "Bush DoJ" they certainly seem to be a lot tougher on Republicans than Democrats. You are casting a pretty good light on the Bush Administration, frankly.

William Jefferson was found to have $90,000 dollars of money marked by the FBI in a bribery sting and there have already been two gentlemen sent to prison after pleading guilty to bribing him. Yeah, I think even George could prosecute that one.

Then there is Sandy Berger...
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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QuirtEvans
Apr 26 2007, 08:51 AM
George K
Apr 26 2007, 09:49 AM
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/52_115/news/18193-1.html

House Democratic leaders are not expected to pressure embattled Rep. William Jefferson (D-La.) to forfeit his lone remaining committee assignment, even as two Republican lawmakers who similarly face intense FBI scrutiny have relinquished their posts in recent days.
Democratic sources indicated that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is unlikely to ask the Louisiana lawmaker, who is under federal investigation, to give up his seat on the Small Business Committee.

The Louisiana lawmaker has not been indicted in the investigation, but the FBI has asserted it videotaped Jefferson allegedly accepting $100,000 in marked bills from an informant, and a related raid of his home reportedly found $90,000 in cash in his freezer.

The FBI also raided Jefferson’s Congressional office in May 2006, an action that drew criticism of the agency from both Republican and Democratic leaders.

In addition, a former Jefferson aide and a Kentucky businessman have both pleaded guilty in connection with the case, receiving lengthy prison terms.

So why hasn't he been indicted? Can't the supremely confident Bush DoJ bring a case?

Maybe it's all the US Attorney's fault.

Nah, it's because two ethical standards exist in Washington, one level for Republicans, one level for Democrats. Now, whether that is a creation of the national media playing biased watchdog, or simply the fact that the American people know that they can expect no better from Democrats, I cannot say.

But from Gingrich to Livingston to the current situation, the playing field is not level.
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QuirtEvans
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You're suffering from sunstroke, or something else that is affecting rational thought.

The Republicans have controlled the DoJ for six years. If they have the goods on Jefferson, they should bring a case.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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QuirtEvans
Apr 26 2007, 10:26 AM
You're suffering from sunstroke, or something else that is affecting rational thought.

The Republicans have controlled the DoJ for six years. If they have the goods on Jefferson, they should bring a case.

You're going to stand there and proclaim that Congress has not interfered in Jefferson's case?
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Jolly
Apr 26 2007, 12:43 PM
QuirtEvans
Apr 26 2007, 10:26 AM
You're suffering from sunstroke, or something else that is affecting rational thought. 

The Republicans have controlled the DoJ for six years.  If they have the goods on Jefferson, they should bring a case.

You're going to stand there and proclaim that Congress has not interfered in Jefferson's case?

That's rich. Blame Congress because the DoJ can't make a case stick.

Yeah, they tried to get in the way. But the DoJ has prosecuted Congresspeople before, and they will again. Once there is competent leadership at DoJ, I mean.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Oh, and I would be VERY glad to see the DoJ toss Jefferson in jail, if he's guilty. Crap like that makes everyone look bad.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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