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speaking or singing?
Topic Started: Apr 15 2007, 06:07 AM (123 Views)
pianojerome
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HOLY CARP!!!
"Valse de Chopin" from Pierrot Lunnaire, by Schoenberg

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As a faint drop of blood
Stains the lips of a consumptive
So there dwells in these tones a
Destructive allure.
Sam
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George K
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Speaking or singing?

But of course!
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DivaDeb
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been there done that


heh
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pianojerome
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DivaDeb
Apr 15 2007, 03:51 PM
been there done that


heh

I'm writing about it for my class.

Did you know...

If you count the number of bars in each of the verses of "Nacht", you get 7, 6, and 10. Sort of the whole way that this song was written is that it starts off with a descending half-step, E --> Eb, followed by the first variation which adds the note G in there: E --> G --> Eb, which is just up a minor third (E-->G) and down a major third (G-->Eb), and then almost everything else in the entire song is some sort of variation of that first variation.

But the coolest thing is this: think about the number of bars in each verse as half-steps... Take 7 for the first verse, go down a half step, and you get 6 for the second verse.... that was the original motive. Take 7 for the first verse and go up a minor third (3 half-steps) and you can 10 for the third verse, and then go down a major third (4 half-steps) and you get 6 for the second verse..... that was the first variation.

:yesgrin:
Sam
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DivaDeb
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but...as we soprani are wont to point out....is it pretty?

:P
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pianojerome
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DivaDeb
Apr 15 2007, 05:22 PM
but...as we soprani are wont to point out....is it pretty?

:P

"Pretty" is not a word that I would use for Schoenberg. :lol:

Sprechstimme is actually kind of melodramatic, don't you think? Fits well with the concept of expressionism.
Sam
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DivaDeb
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Oh yes, I definitely agree about the function and effect of sprechstimme. I was entertaining myself by making a joke nobody would understand.

"Is it pretty" is kind of an old inside joke from my conservatory days...it probably isn't funny if you weren't there, but it still seems hilarious to me. Whenever somebody started waxing poetic about their uber-cool contemporary song repertoire (in that pretensious tone that ONLY fine arts majors can affect) Someone would say..."yeah...but is it pretty?"

You kinda had to be there

:lol2:
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pianojerome
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Yeah, I guess I sort of had to be there. :P

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Oh yes, I definitely agree about the function and effect of sprechstimme.


I mean in terms of origin.... seems like a natural development out of the spoken lines of melodramas.
Sam
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