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From David's questions...; I'll start at least one
Topic Started: Apr 15 2007, 05:16 AM (556 Views)
Mikhailoh
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One of the question David Burton asked in his post on confession was:

"What does it matter to spend so much time chasing more and more of this world’s goods and services when you will only have to lose them eventually anyway?"

I have a pretty clear take on that, at least as it applies to money. Money to me is freedom. It allows me greater control over how I spend my time. The more money, the more control.

If I were to become mega-rich overnight, I would have nicer vehicles, a great sailboat and a much better piano. Maybe more nature around my home. Other than that, I can't think of much I want (other than today I am looking for an old-style aluminum box charcoal grill). I would not have a giant impressive home, nor would I live ostentatiously.

I think it is Maslow's Hierarchy in action, really. Once the material needs are met, it is time for self-actualization. I think that is reflected in many of us who took up piano as adults. Janet and I lend significant, but not life-changing, support to a couple local charities and arts groups we feel strongly about. Were I to be totally relieved of making an income I would devote a great deal more time and resources to improving my community.

You can't take the stuff with you, but I'd like it if a lot of folks showed up at my memorial.
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I hope this gets off the ground and goes somewhere. I'll be back later in hopes of learning more from others.
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Mikhailoh
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All the questions you asked were fertile ground for us to learn more of each other. I may start a couple more of them just to see. Much more interesting than Imus, Iraq and Gonzales.
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Jolly
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It's a good question...What does a man need material-wise?

Or more specifically, what do I need?

Given reasonably good health, not a heckuva lot. I didn't come from money, and while money doesn't hurt, it's not the ultimate yardstick by which a man is measured.

After the kids get out of school, and my retirement becomes a reality, a little two bedroom house, stuck out in the middle of nowhere would be a welcome respite. Just let it be near a lake or a big expanse of woods. Somewhere a man can take a good breath, somwhere where you can see the stars at night. Enough money for the A/C in the summer, a good hearth in the winter, and an occasional pot of something good simmering on the stove. A few shelves of good books, a beat up piano in a corner.

A front porch that serves as front porch should, as welcoming platform for family and friends, as a launching platform for casual conversation.

Life is about God, family, friends and good food. Anything else is just lagniappe.
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Within the next couple of years I plan on buying a wooded lakefront lot, building myself a little cabin, buying a big assed houseboat, and a good fishing boat that I can hang off the side of the houseboat. I'm gonna dock that sucker at the cabin, and I'll divide my time between sitting on my butt in the cabin, and sitting on my butt in the houseboat. When I'm sitting on my butt in the houseboat, it will be slap out in the middle of the lake, with big signs hanging on both sides that says "If you get near me I'll shoot you".....

Then, I plan on getting back to some serious music writing, and I'd like to write a book. No one would buy it, probably, but I want to write one anyway. Other than what I put out creatively, my plan is to drop off the face of the earth and never be seen again.....
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My current plan is to open something like youtube, sell it to google for 3,5 billion $ in a few years, and do only what I like to thereafter.

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TomK
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Mikhailoh
Apr 15 2007, 09:16 AM
Other than that, I can't think of much I want (other than today I am looking for an old-style aluminum box charcoal grill).

Once you taste a steak from a Big Green Egg (pictured elsewhere,) you will a man with a needle in his arm. Nothing better.

Money is freedom--nothing more nothing less. You still have the same 24 hrs a day--but when you can spend it any way you wish--it's lovely or it's a curse. It depends on your character.

Also, and this is only a bit also--it lets you be as exotic as you wish and people "respect your individuality" rather than calling you an oddball. :cool:
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Also, and this is only a bit also--it lets you be as exotic as you wish and people "respect your individuality" rather than calling you an oddball.


No, it only has an affect what people are willing to call you to your face - and not always even then. ^_^
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Dewey
Apr 15 2007, 05:45 PM
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Also, and this is only a bit also--it lets you be as exotic as you wish and people "respect your individuality" rather than calling you an oddball.


No, it only has an affect what people are willing to call you to your face - and not always even then. ^_^

I disagree--people respect money.

Look at how many people look up to Paris Hilton (Donald Trump, Bill Gates, Anna Nicole Smith, etc,) as their "hero."

Never underestimate the shallowness of the American public. People walk up to me and SHAKE MY HAND because of the car I drive.
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TomK
Apr 15 2007, 05:42 PM
Mikhailoh
Apr 15 2007, 09:16 AM
Other than that, I can't think of much I want (other than today I am looking for an old-style aluminum box charcoal grill).

Once you taste a steak from a Big Green Egg (pictured elsewhere,) you will a man with a needle in his arm. Nothing better.

I found EXACTLY the grill I want in Tulsa on craigslist. $25. I emailed the guy and said I'd send him a check for the grill and shipping if he could send me some pics of the inside. He said local and cash only. Must have thought I was Nigerian and trying to get my hands on that valuable grill. :lol:
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TomK
Apr 15 2007, 10:53 PM
People walk up to me and SHAKE MY HAND because of the car I drive.

Now I am really curious what kind of car you drive...
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Mikhailoh
Apr 15 2007, 05:55 PM
TomK
Apr 15 2007, 05:42 PM
Mikhailoh
Apr 15 2007, 09:16 AM
Other than that, I can't think of much I want (other than today I am looking for an old-style aluminum box charcoal grill).

Once you taste a steak from a Big Green Egg (pictured elsewhere,) you will a man with a needle in his arm. Nothing better.

I found EXACTLY the grill I want in Tulsa on craigslist. $25. I emailed the guy and said I'd send him a check for the grill and shipping if he could send me some pics of the inside. He said local and cash only. Must have thought I was Nigerian and trying to get my hands on that valuable grill. :lol:

Well, I for one always thought you were a Nigerian. I always get e-mails from a guy named Mikhailoh from Nigeria and I believe most of the people on this Forum got them, too. Perhaps you've been misrepresenting youself.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Best of luck on your grill. :thumb:

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TomK
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Klaus
Apr 15 2007, 05:59 PM
TomK
Apr 15 2007, 10:53 PM
People walk up to me and SHAKE MY HAND because of the car I drive.

Now I am really curious what kind of car you drive...

A British Volkswagon.
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Mikhailoh
Apr 15 2007, 11:01 PM
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I love the Isetta! I had the opportunity to drive one once. The coolest feature was that you could drive as fast backwards as you could drive forward - it did not have an explicit reverse gear, but you could just start the engine the other way around.
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TomK
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Apr 15 2007, 06:21 PM
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Apr 15 2007, 11:01 PM
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I love the Isetta! I had the opportunity to drive one once. The coolest feature was that you could drive as fast backwards as you could drive forward - it did not have an explicit reverse gear, but you could just start the engine the other way around.

If it's so cool--then how come kenny doesn't have one? :biggrin:
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I have a pretty clear take on that, at least as it applies to money.  Money to me is freedom.  It allows me greater control over how I spend my time.  The more money, the more control.


Well, that’s not what money is to me, but I can see that argument. Money to me is only a means, and money without means is worthless (worthless in that it holds no real value or merit).

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I think it is Maslow's Hierarchy in action, really.  Once the material needs are met, it is time for self-actualization. I think that is reflected in many of us who took up piano as adults.  Janet and I lend significant, but not life-changing, support to a couple local charities and arts groups we feel strongly about. Were I to be totally relieved of making an income I would devote a great deal more time and resources to improving my community.


Money has nothing to do with Maslow’s Hierarchy. Sure, you may buy such things as shelter, food, and water, but those are very basic needs and require a very small amount. (By small, I mean that the majority of us in this country are able to fulfill these needs, so no uncommon amount of money is required).

Safety/security, a sense of belonging, self-esteem, and especially self-actualization are things you can work on without money. Not just that, but money will buy you none of these things, not even the time you invest in them. Self-actualization involves every part of your daily routine; it’s not something you work on during your vacation. It has to do with you and your potential, not what you do in your leisure time. The same can be said for everything else in the hierarchy, after the basic needs are met.
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Jolly, your picture works for me too but I need a boat....

At the moment I have two: a 45 year old sunfish and a double ender wooden rowboat made by a Maine craftsman in 1977, repainted purple by me last year!

Those will suffice for my retirement although the Sunfish will likely be upgraded.

We are fortunate to have the camp on the lake already. A double wide would suffice for the rest of the year, but it looks like we can do a little better than that.

I also want a travel budget. I want to see the Grand Canyon, the Pacific northwest, Costa Rica and Africa before I check out.

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Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter; and with eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations.
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Aqua, Aqua, Aqua.

I used money because by and large that is how we get our material needs met. I did not say Maslow's Hierarchy was about money. And yes, you can work on self-actualization without money, of course, but only AFTER you have used money to meet the basic needs.

Achieving financial security affords you a great deal more time to work on the things that are important to you, not your physical well being.

So, Aqua, instead of picking my answer apart, why don't you try answering the original question?
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Klaus
Apr 15 2007, 05:38 PM
My current plan is to open something like youtube, sell it to google for 3,5 billion $ in a few years, and do only what I like to thereafter.

That's great work, when you can find it. ;)
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Apr 15 2007, 05:01 PM
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Ha, Mik, there was a man who lived across the road from our high school who basically owned a junkyard, except nothing was really for sale - it was just his "personal collection." His last name was Cartwright, so obviously, we called his place the "Ponderosa." The house on the Ponderosa grounds had a flat roof, and Mr. Cartwright kept a blue and white one of those sitting on his roof. Every time I see one, I think of the "Ponderosa." ^_^

"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685.

"Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous

"Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011

I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14
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Apr 15 2007, 04:53 PM
Dewey
Apr 15 2007, 05:45 PM
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Also, and this is only a bit also--it lets you be as exotic as you wish and people "respect your individuality" rather than calling you an oddball.


No, it only has an affect what people are willing to call you to your face - and not always even then. ^_^

I disagree--people respect money.

Look at how many people look up to Paris Hilton (Donald Trump, Bill Gates, Anna Nicole Smith, etc,) as their "hero."

Never underestimate the shallowness of the American public. People walk up to me and SHAKE MY HAND because of the car I drive.

Yes, some people respect money - but you aren't your money. They still call you an asshole behind your back. :lol:
"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685.

"Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous

"Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011

I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14
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TomK
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Dewey
Apr 15 2007, 07:37 PM

Yes, some people respect money - but you aren't your money. They still call you an asshole behind your back. :lol:

Fair enough, I laugh at them--why shouldn't they laugh at me?

It's a funny world, anyway. :thumb:
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I always wondered, based on my own experience, what personal quirks and actions my daughter would make fun of to her friends.. I found out the other day and am pretty relieved. It is just a way I laugh and smack the table at times. Her rendition of it is over the top and hilarious.
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Apr 15 2007, 06:46 PM
Dewey
Apr 15 2007, 07:37 PM

Yes, some people respect money - but you aren't your money. They still call you an asshole behind your back.  :lol:

Fair enough, I laugh at them--why shouldn't they laugh at me?

It's a funny world, anyway. :thumb:

Aint that the truth. ^_^
"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685.

"Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous

"Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011

I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14
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