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Art majors, help me out!!!
Topic Started: Apr 9 2007, 07:57 AM (1,040 Views)
ivorythumper
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
Joshua Judges Ruth is one of my favorite albums.
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just as an aside, judges has always been taught (wow, i read it i think somewhere back in seventh grade) as a very negative point in jewish history.

a time of turbulence, anarchy. ... the general mood is of disrepair, confusion.


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There was no king in the land...the repetition of that phrase is significant.


Exactly. It's a book very much filled with negativity and despair, as seen in the repeating of the theme "there was no king (and by implication, King) in Israel; everyone did was was right in his own sight," and then offering yet another example of the Israelistes' failure to remain faithful drives home the theme. Of course, it contains two of the most awful accounts of the entire Bible - Jephthah sacrificing his daughter in order to maintain a rashly made vow; and the account of the rape and subsequent chopping up of the Levite's concubine. People using those examles to argue against God or the value of the Scriptures, by pointing how how appalling these things are and saying "how could any God condone these things?!" have entirely missed the point of the book - which is exactly that these things *are* appalling. God isn't condoning them; God's condemning them. You're supposed to be repulsed by these accounts, which the writer is offering as numerous examples of just how far the people had strayed from God, as they all "did what was right in their own eyes."

Of course, there is a hopeful message underlying all the despair, also, which is that despite the people's repeated turning away from God; and their continual failure to follow God's will - long after God would seem entirely justified in completely writing them off - God doesn't. Repeatedly, as the Israelites hit bottom, and turn to God for assistance, God raises up another person to lead them in the right path. God gives them another chance.

And then they screw it up, again.

And they realize it, and turn back to God.

And then God gives them another chance.

It all seems so eerily familiar.
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Apr 10 2007, 02:11 AM
Joshua Judges Ruth is one of my favorite albums.

Baby Ruth is one of my favorite candy bars.
"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685.

"Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous

"Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011

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Apr 10 2007, 03:07 AM
Exactly. It's a book very much filled with negativity and despair, as seen in the repeating of the theme "there was no king (and by implication, King) in Israel...

Of course there was no King in Israel.

He was in WASHINGTON!

This ties in just great with my suggested photos. You must use them Dewey. I believe it was fore ordained.
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685.

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"Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011

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Apr 10 2007, 03:24 PM
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Two faces or one...or, one ugly woman staring at a candle holder.
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It looks like the candle holder was buried in her skull.
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That would not be a good thing.
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FINALLY!

A response from my daughter, the Art Teacher:

there are several ways to approach this. i immediately
thought of parodies since they very clear references
to the original artwork while still having their own
weight. see "guernica" by picasso and the parody by
gerard teichert.

i think "guernica" is a good piece for this because
it's a) of an event, b) can be interpreted in many
ways due to it's abstract nature, c) it offers many
visual and conceptual ideas to parody. google
"guernica" and "parody".

there's also "odalisque" paintings which emereged
during the rococo era. jean-auguste-dominique ingres'
"large odalisque" is just one of many odalisque's,
which are female slaves/ concubines. the painting is
all about the spectator. her back is way too long, her
hips are wider, her feet don't seem to have bones;
everything about this painting says "lust", at least
to me. the woman in these paintings is completely
unaware of the viewer. her pose is usually not for the
viewer (see francios boucher's painting).
these paintings aren't really of an event but i think
they speak to the idea of approaching the same subject
matter in multiple ways.

also, duchamp's " nude descending the staircase" is
the polar opposite of gerhard richter's painting of
the same title. i think it really speaks to the
changes that have occurred since cubism and how to
convey motion.

there's a ridiculous amount of religious artwork that
addresses the same events. if you want to create a
stir, look at "piss christ" by andres serrano.
generally i think that shock art is pointless (i.e.
making a sculpture literally out of ****), but i don't
think this artist made this piece to simply shock.
christ bled, ****, ate, pissed, etc. he was human and
i think this piece often brings up freedom of speech.
how is it that he can create a piece so unpopular that
is supported by the NEA? there's also "piss muhammad"
lol. this piece, although created in '89, is really
relevant today (the muhammad cartoons some to mind).
it humanizes jesus which is what alot of medieval
artwork tried to accomplish in art.
-coppo di marcovaldo's "crucifix" really shows
christ's suffering.

any virgin and child/ madonna and child are good
comparisons as well.

check out " that last supper" by da vinci and it's
parodies. i don't feel like looking for any right now.
be aware of the geometrical aspects of the painting
and it's sense of order. that's pretty easy to compare
to another painting.


bear in mind that there isn't much outside of the
western canon that has similar paintings. alot of
those paintings are of landscapes reflecting the
culture's respect for nature
or letter illuminations of pages from the koran or
the vedas, for example. most artwork is 3D, of gods
and goddesses, temples, etc. there's also alot of
functional artwork like pottery.

hope that helps.
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