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Art majors, help me out!!!
Topic Started: Apr 9 2007, 07:57 AM (1,042 Views)
bachophile
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same idea....

van gogh

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and gaugin's rendition...


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sue
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or how about some Cézanne, and Georges Braques? They both did many paintings of similar scenes, 'the sea at l'estaque' for one.
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katie
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That's real good Bach. Van Gogh used the same vase of sunflowers for a few of his paintings if I remember ..

:)
[I'm not an art major but once owned and enjoyed a very large collection of art books, Abrams etc., but I had to sell them :( ]

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sue
Apr 9 2007, 12:29 PM
or how about some Cézanne, and Georges Braques? They both did many paintings of similar scenes, 'the sea at l'estaque' for one.

Could be .. He may have done a few views of nude sunbathers by a lake? maybe.

I was thinking of Manet as well.

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katie
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Dewy's getting us to do his homework. ;)

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sue
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these two are probably toooo different, but they are both paintings of the same viaduct (Cézanne and Braque)
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Sue, the viaducts are cool, but even though painted from different vantage points, the primary focus in both is the viaduct. bach, both your entries were very cool too, and could work for my intention, but still isn't quite what I'm talking about - close, but not quite.
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sue
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or these, both of the same mountain
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edit: oh, I just saw your reply, Dewey, and I see what you're saying. But I'm going to post these anyways because I'm having fun; way more fun that doing what I should be doing. :smile:
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Actually sue, I think both of your examples are the closest yet to what I'm talking about. Even though either the viaduct, or the mountain, are both background items in the first, and remain so in the second, the different vantage points allow for expression of other foreground details that aren't emphasized, or even visible, in the first example.

Kincaid, I love the MLK photos too - if you could actually see MLK, as a tiny dot, in the backgournd of the crowd scene, that would capture what I'm looking for.

I appreciate all the hard work (or at least your willingness to use this as an excuse to avoid work) from everyone in fnding these examples.
"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685.

"Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous

"Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011

I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14
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katie
Apr 9 2007, 02:39 PM
Dewy's getting us to do his homework. ;)

Nah, not really. ^_^

I'll fess up the what/why. For the last week or so, as I mentioned in some other thread, I had been studying the Old Testament book of Joshua. I've now moved into a study of the next book, the book of Judges.

Both of these books deal with the conquest/emergence of the Israelites in the promised land. However, the accounts have very different "tones" to them, which some have claimed are contradictory. In Joshua, the story emphasizes the idea of "conquest," and military subjugation, and while noting some "holdouts" among the indigenous people in the area that survived the conquest, the overall tone of the book seems to imply that the Israelites took the land almost blitzkrieg-like, and that there was no real contest.

The book of Judges is an account of the Israelites' history from the death of Joshua forward. By contrast, this book recounts (among other things) that the Israelite control over the promised land was very much not as "done a deal" as Joshua seems to imply.

Without getting into a detailed explanation of why I believe so, suffice it to say that I feel that both books tell an important, but different aspect of the same story - that while what was said in Joshua was accurate from the chosen vantage point of that author, so also is the accont in Judges that, on the surface, might appear contradictory.

On the off chance that I might use that as a departure point for a sermon in the future, I imagined illustrating this concept by using two paintings/photos/sculptures as described: both detailing the same thing, but, viewed from different vantage points and attempting to emphasize different aspects of the thing/event itself, come across very differently although they're actually detailing the same thing.

I keep a "clipping file" of stuff like this for future use, and just thought of this one earlier today. Lazy bum that I am, I thought maybe someone out there knew of a good example of this concept from their Art Appreciation days. ^_^
"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685.

"Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous

"Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011

I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14
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Perhaps if someone could post a painting of a forest and one of trees.
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There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


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katie
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Thanks for the explanation Dewey. Interesting too. :)
It's been fun looking up images. My last try included imagery closeups of gargolyes on notre dame & the cathedral itself from different vantage points. You might find that if you google these things too.

NOW, I have housework to do .. Boy, do I ever ;) :D

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Dewey
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Or, a photograph of a cute cottage sitting at the edge of a clearing, with a wooded background - and then another photograph, showing the same cottage, but with a vantage point closer to the trees behind, and looking back in the other direction, and you see that right across the street is a very non-bucolic highway, or something similar. It doesn't really have to be that stark or jarring, but that's kind of the idea - seeing a reality that isn't entirely visible from only one vantage point.
"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685.

"Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous

"Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011

I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14
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Dewey
Apr 9 2007, 12:04 PM
Kincaid, I love the MLK photos too - if you could actually see MLK, as a tiny dot, in the backgournd of the crowd scene, that would capture what I'm looking for.

But he is there - can't you see him?

Don't tell me they all look alike to you?
Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006.
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DivaDeb
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here's a weird one:

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Dewey
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Apr 9 2007, 03:52 PM
Dewey
Apr 9 2007, 12:04 PM
Kincaid, I love the MLK photos too - if you could actually see MLK, as a tiny dot, in the backgournd of the crowd scene, that would capture what I'm looking for.

But he is there - can't you see him?

Don't tell me they all look alike to you?

:rolleyes:

No, actually I don't see him in that pic. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong spot.
"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685.

"Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous

"Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011

I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14
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Kincaid
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Dewey,

I suppose your calling prohibits you from fibbing to the congregation? Can't just point out a black dot and say, "That's actually him right there!"?
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Maybe this is overly simplistic, but...

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I think that's brilliant, dol!
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*snicker
If in doubt, ask the girl with a BFA who only actually had to take one credit in visual arts :P Sometimes, a little knowledge goes a long way because simple is the only option!
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I think better would have been a fish-eye view of the bridge.
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Picky, picky :P
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just as an aside, judges has always been taught (wow, i read it i think somewhere back in seventh grade) as a very negative point in jewish history.

a time of turbulence, anarchy.

read ruth also which happens at the same time.

the general mood is of disrepair, confusion.

the stories of yiftach and the pilegesh (whore) of givon i would say were particular examples of a degenerate society.

"every man did as was right in his eyes..."




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DivaDeb
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Yep. I have spent a lot of time in Judges and Ruth in the last few years. I enjoy reading your posts, bach. There was no king in the land...the repetition of that phrase is significant.
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katie
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That's brilliant Dol.
It probably just popped into your head too.
:)

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