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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 26 2007, 05:58 PM (941 Views) | |
| Larry | Mar 29 2007, 12:26 PM Post #51 |
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So you admit you're a water carrier for the democrats. Well, thanks for being honest on *that* point, at least. |
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| OperaTenor | Mar 29 2007, 12:29 PM Post #52 |
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Pisa-Carp
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There you go again. Only the first half of the adage applies in this case, however. ![]() PS> IIRC correctly, I have to inform the NPA national convention in writing if I have to revoke my affiliation. |
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| QuirtEvans | Mar 29 2007, 12:29 PM Post #53 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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I see. So destroying the reputation one civil servant (I'm going with your assumption, without necessarily agreeing with it) rates as more of an underlying conduct problem in your book than destroying the reputation of eight prosecutors for the sake of (go with the assumption, for purposes of determining whether an investigation was warranted) blocking an investigation of Republicans and getting investigations started against Democrats. In fact, the first is worthy of a full-scale Congressional investigation, but the second is a fishing expedition and shouldn't even trouble them. Doesn't something seem a little bass ackwards about that? |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| JBryan | Mar 29 2007, 12:35 PM Post #54 |
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I am the grey one
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No, it doesn't. Bush did not phony up some criminal charges against these guys and have them packed off in irons. He simply fired them. If there was something nefarious about why they were fired we still haven't seen a shred of evidence for it. Calling the destruction of Billy Dale an "assumption" is laughable on the order of calling the sunrise an "assumption" but you are simply trying to employ sleight of hand to equate that "assumption" with the fairy tales being spun out of whole cloth that you listed. Oh, and their reputations ruined? Please. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 29 2007, 12:41 PM Post #55 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Carol Lam is now senior vice president and legal counsel for for Qualcomm. Paul Charlton is now a partner in Gallagher & Kennedy, P.A John McKay is professor of law at Seattle University School of Law. That is pretty outlandish hyperbole, even from you Quirt. |
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| QuirtEvans | Mar 29 2007, 01:38 PM Post #56 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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We've seen plenty of evidence, you just have to pull your head out of the sand to see it. How about Iglesias, who was actively being considered for promotion until he gave an unacceptable answer to a couple of Congresspeople about whether he was pursuing voting fraud cases against Democrats? Even though the DoJ and the FBI didn't disagree with his decision that there wasn't sufficient evidence? How about Carol Lam telling the AG's office on Day 1 that she was issuing subpoenas in a Republican bribery investigation, and Sampson deciding on Day 2 that she had to be gotten rid of immediately? There are none so blind as those that will not see. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Larry | Mar 29 2007, 01:40 PM Post #57 |
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You're projecting again. |
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| JBryan | Mar 29 2007, 01:44 PM Post #58 |
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http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_New_Coffee...showtopic=21605
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| George K | Mar 29 2007, 01:46 PM Post #59 |
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Finally
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Ayup... Part 1
Part 2
Evidently Sampson disagrees with your assessment, Quirt. Of course, he's an administration hack, and he's probably lying under oath.... |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| QuirtEvans | Mar 29 2007, 01:50 PM Post #60 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Well, George, if you've already committed obstruction of justice, it's not too great a step to perjury. Or do you think that Sampson was going to walk up there and admit to obstruction of justice? And yes, I'm glad to see that you understand and agree that he's an Administration hack. Interesting, though, that he called Gonzales a liar. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Mar 29 2007, 01:51 PM Post #61 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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I never get tired of the brilliance of the "I know you are, but what am I?" retort. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| George K | Mar 29 2007, 01:53 PM Post #62 |
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Finally
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Edit: Nevermind... |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Larry | Mar 29 2007, 02:53 PM Post #63 |
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sQuirt, if you didn't suffer from this mental illness you suffer from, you'd be able to understand that it isn't a "I know" argument, it's a matter of pointing out what you're doing. You're dysfunctional, and it's a result of your yellow dog democrat politics. You *are* doing what psychiatrists refer to as "projecting". The first step toward healing is admitting your problem, sQuirt. |
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| TomK | Mar 29 2007, 04:18 PM Post #64 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Yes, so we read.... post by post by post.
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| JBryan | Mar 29 2007, 04:48 PM Post #65 |
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Since quirt doesn't seem to want to address this. From the link I posted:
So, you see Sampson's desire to get rid of Lam did not begin on "Day 2". His email was just the latest in a series of emails saying the same thing. Furthermore, this email does not seem to be prompted by Lam's indictments at all but by a question sent by the White House. There is so much wrong with the "Carol Lam got fired for indicting Duke Cunningham" theory I am truly amazed that anyone would still be flogging it. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Mar 30 2007, 03:54 AM Post #66 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Since you aren't paying attention, I'll try again. I acknowledge that Lam's name was put on the list earlier. Sampson's URGENCY didn't occur until THE DAY AFTER she informed the AG's office of the new round of subpoenas against Republicans. His sudden need to have a replacement IMMEDIATELY available ... for her, and not for anyone else .... is what's suspicious. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Mar 30 2007, 03:55 AM Post #67 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Crawl back under the couch, Cockroach. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| JBryan | Mar 30 2007, 04:02 AM Post #68 |
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And just what causes you to infer this so-called urgency. He basically resent the same email to the White House that he sent them before in response to a question by them. It was so urgent to him that he wanted someone ready to be nominated at the end of her term. Not immediately as you are saying. Apparently, it is not me who is not paying attention. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Mar 30 2007, 04:07 AM Post #69 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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The inference of the so-called urgency comes from saying they needed someone ready to nominate THE DAY her term expired. Sounds pretty urgent to me. Sampson also acknowledged that ... The USA Today ranked Lam's immigration prosecution record as third best in the nation. Pretty funny if she wasn't prosecutiing immigration cases, huh? No one from DoJ ever called her ... EVER CALLED HER ... to tell her that she wasn't following the Administration's priorities on immigration. Most bosses I know actually give the employee some clue of what they want and how they aren't meeting expectations before firing them. Unless, of course, the expectation can't be spoken, because it's the Eleventh Commandment (don't prosecute Republicans). |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| JBryan | Mar 30 2007, 04:16 AM Post #70 |
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We already know that DoJ was dropping the ball on this. There were several Congressman including Darrel Issa who were trying to get their attention. Internal documents show they were concerned at DoJ but the fact that no one ever called her is a reflection of their ineptitude. It is a stretch to say it was because they didn't have any concerns about her until she indicted Duke Cunningham. In fact, the documentary evidence contradicts that. You are really reaching here.
That's nice. I'm sure the USA Today's endorsement will look good on her resume. There were, however, a lot of other people who disagreed and the evidence supports them. for instance, the number of immigration cases actually went down during her tenure. This while they were going up in all other border districts. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Larry | Mar 30 2007, 04:51 AM Post #71 |
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Yeah - cockroaches usually are attracted to garbage, aren't they sQuirt?..... |
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| George K | Jul 21 2010, 05:39 PM Post #72 |
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No Criminal Charges in US Attorney Firings
Move along, nothing to see here, even if you're blind. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Axtremus | Jul 21 2010, 06:51 PM Post #73 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Thanks for the update, George. (p.s. Do you resurrect this thread because you really want to share the update with us, or are you missing Quirt bad?) |
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| George K | Jul 21 2010, 06:56 PM Post #74 |
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I update this to point out that the hysteria over the firing of the US attorneys was not a criminal act, despite the heavy breathing of many on the left. I like closure, lest wrong impressions live on. Draw whatever conclusions you want from that. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Horace | Jul 21 2010, 06:56 PM Post #75 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I miss Quirt. |
| As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good? | |
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