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Senator Biden likes the taste of his own foot; ...makes dumbass comment
Topic Started: Jan 31 2007, 07:20 AM (875 Views)
The 89th Key
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SEN. BIDEN SHOCK INTERVIEW: OBAMA FIRST 'CLEAN' BLACK IN MAINSTREAM... 'I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy'

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ivorythumper
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At least Mel was drunk. :eek:
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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Larry
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
He's just trying to be "one of the people".......
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JBryan
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Just another case of Joe Biden not making sure his brain is engaged before throwing his mouth into gear. I think he just lets it run because he likes the sound of it.
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There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

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Mikhailoh
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Where's the outrage? Surely there must be outrage.

No? Oh, that's right - he's a Democrat, so it COULDN'T be bigotry. I forgot.
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Can you imagine the absolute OUTRAGE that there would be if McCain said this?
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Daniel\
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89th, you use ' marks indicating you are parphrasing? I'm not sure.

Can we please have the quote and the source?


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JBryan
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http://observer.com/20070205/20070205_Jaso..._newsstory1.asp
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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No problem...the story was just breaking when I started the thread:

http://www.observer.com/20070205/20070205_...newsstory1.html

Mr. Biden is equally skeptical—albeit in a slightly more backhanded way—about Mr. Obama. “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Observer

I would like 1x hard news reporting of quote. It's unclear to me if those are his words are not. Seems like it would be news.



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Well they are quoting him...so it's not like they are paraphrasing it...
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Daniel\
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They are quoting him but they look like a liberal tabloid to me. Maybe they support "Hillary"? Who knows.

If someone said something like this- they should be asked if they said it- so that they can confirm or deny they said it - and Barack Obama should be asked how he feels about it. Etc.

Maybe this will develop into a bigger story (as you suggest). If he really said this (or even if he didn't) I can't imagine some other news outlet not picking up on it.

I don't know why you would believe a liberal tabloid. :lol2:

fwiw- he has 0x chance of being elected. :cool2:

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Audio: http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=463858485
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Mikhailoh
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Daniel, you miss the point entirely. If a GOP congressman said this they would have had him labeled a klansman on the front page.
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Terry
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And, he knows better...he ran directly against Jesse Jackson in the '88 dem. primary as one of the 7 dwarves.
He was doing well until Dukakis's camp derailed him with the tape of a ripped off Neil Kinnock speech.

Perhaps we'll be hearing from the Reverend's people soon?
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Terry
Jan 31 2007, 05:18 PM
a ripped off Neil Kinnock speech

:lol:
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Paraphrasing OT, I'm still waiting "to see how all of you lefties either rationalize this, or start pigpiling on Senator Biden".

:whistle:

<crickets chirping>

Won't any of you denounce this bigotry??? :shrug:
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Terry
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I tried.



:wave:
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ivorythumper
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:wave: Good for you! Sorry if I overlooked it -- it wasn't exactly a jeremiad. :wink:
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Terry
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Jan 31 2007, 03:47 PM
:wave: Good for you! Sorry if I overlooked it -- it wasn't exactly a jeremiad. :wink:

You know, I admire Clint Eastwood's movies and his taste in Jazz music, but that's the first damn time I've ever had to look up anything from his writing!


Jeremiad, indeed... :banghead:


:lol2:
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Strange how we are supposed to give certain opinions as a group as if were obligatory. I asked for confirmation that the quote was correct. My computer won't load the video, so it doesn't help.

If he said it and he meant "clean" and not something else - the remarks were arguably tinged with racism but MAYBE NOT- maybe the comments were just disrespectful and rude. I don't think I am the right person to have an opinion before:

1. the comments are confirmed
2. they are clarified
3. Obama responds

Nobody makes racist comments without other people noticing not least a US senator. So chill with your accusations of selective outrage.

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Daniel
Jan 31 2007, 06:32 PM
My computer won't load the video, so it doesn't help.

Try this link, Daniel.

Perhaps we should play "WIARHSI?" You know: "What if a Republican Had Said It?" In today's game, let's imagine what would happen if a Republican presidential candidate had said that Barack Obama was the first "clean" and "articulate" African-American presidential candidate?

* Which paper would be first to call for the Republican's withdrawal from the race: the NY Times, Boston Globe, WaPo, other?
* How soon until Jesse Jackson, Carol Moseley-Braun and Al Sharpton turned up on TV to be asked how they felt about being insulted in this way?
* How many hours of MSM musing over the GOP's "history of racial insensitivity"; how many replays of Trent Lott making his statement about Strom Thurmond, of George Allen's 'macaca' moment, etc., would we be subjected to over the ensuing week?
* How long until the hapless Republican did indeed withdraw from the race?
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Daniel
Jan 31 2007, 05:32 PM
Strange how we are supposed to give certain opinions as a group as if were obligatory.  I asked for confirmation that the quote was correct.  My computer won't load the video, so it doesn't help.

If he said it and he meant "clean" and not something else - the remarks were arguably tinged with racism but MAYBE NOT- maybe the comments were just disrespectful and rude.  I don't think I am the right person to have an opinion before:

1. the comments are confirmed
2. they are clarified
3. Obama responds

Nobody makes racist comments without other people noticing not least a US senator.  So chill with your accusations of selective outrage.

That's OK, Dan -- I appreciate that you're a fair minded liberal and want to give him the benefit of the doubt, make sure the quote is correct and in context, not jumping to conclusions, etc.

Would that ALL liberals were like you, and extend the same courtesies to everyone on the other side of the political spectrum... :wink:
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Daniel\
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Well I mean really. You want us to be cautious and not emotional and when we are you get upset. We can't win with you! :lol:

I think this story should play out- I do- so let it, that's all I'm saying. I could care less about Joe Biden. He is slightly more important to me than the grass I have to keep from growing up around my front step.

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I heard that Obama responded and said that he understood what Biden meant, no harm done.

I somewhat agree with Biden on this...Obama is one of if not THE most promising black candidate for the presidency we've ever had. That doesn't make his comment any less foot-in-mouth, especially when it comes to politics.

The point however, is that if a republican had said this, news media outlets would have had a collective orgasm.
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