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| AlbertaCrude | Jan 7 2007, 08:26 AM Post #76 |
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Humanity has passed through plenty of so-called slippery slopes without imploding on itself. Equality and social equity have never proven to be the slippery slopes to doom the obscurants said they were. |
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| TomK | Jan 7 2007, 10:15 AM Post #77 |
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I voted NO. I guess I'm just an old fashioned kind of guy. BUT I think we should do a national plebiscite--the same as we're doing with same sex marriages--state by state, and see let the nation decide. (I forget, how are those same sex marriages plebiscites working out. :D) |
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| John D'Oh | Jan 7 2007, 10:18 AM Post #78 |
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Worldwide, there's a definite trend towards allowing gay marriage. The US is traditionally somewhat more socially conservative than much of the rest of the West, but I'm sure it'll catch on here eventually. |
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| TomK | Jan 7 2007, 10:22 AM Post #79 |
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OR maybe the world will catch up with the United States. And John by "the world" you must be refering to Western Europe. There's a billion or so Muslems, a billion or so Chinese, a billion or so Hindu-Indians, all of South America, etc. that aren't part of your "world." :rolleyes: Those billions do ad up. |
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| The 89th Key | Jan 7 2007, 11:07 AM Post #80 |
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So you admit it's bigotry to deny a man's desire to have sex with a dog?
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| TomK | Jan 7 2007, 11:13 AM Post #81 |
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And what about the North American Man Boy Love Assocoation? (At least hetrosexual sexual predators don't have an association. :)) |
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| mmmaestro007 | Jan 7 2007, 11:55 AM Post #82 |
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no - not between consenting adults |
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"Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable of giving pleasure to thousands, and all you can do is scratch it!" Sir Thomas Beechem, conductor | |
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| mmmaestro007 | Jan 7 2007, 11:58 AM Post #83 |
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well, it's not an ideal situation for the kid but legally there's not a lot you could do about that |
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"Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable of giving pleasure to thousands, and all you can do is scratch it!" Sir Thomas Beechem, conductor | |
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| Jolly | Jan 7 2007, 12:00 PM Post #84 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Or one can just say "no" to worms.... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| LWpianistin | Jan 7 2007, 12:01 PM Post #85 |
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But worms make life interesting. It would be awfully boring if we had a perfect world. |
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| justme | Jan 7 2007, 12:09 PM Post #86 |
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okay, so I haven't read this entire thread, but I voted anyway. Yes, if they are good people. (loving, honest, pay their bills, will care about education, etc. etc. etc.) No, if they are bad people. (thieves, pedophiles, murderers, deadbeats, etc. etc. etc.) added edit: okay, I've gone back and read the majority of this thread. For those of you who answered "no", what are you afraid of? That the kid will be dysfunctional? That the kid will turn out gay? Hell, kids can be raised by two supposed "normal" parents and turn out dysfunctional. And kids can be raised by to straight parents and turn out gay. sheesh! |
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"Men sway more towards hussies." G-D3 | |
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| kenny | Jan 7 2007, 12:14 PM Post #87 |
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Old fashioned? Gee let's bring back slavery then. How it was yesterday is always better. |
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| justme | Jan 7 2007, 12:20 PM Post #88 |
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Kenny, Your post made me think of the Geico caveman commercials. I wonder how the caveman would have answered. |
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"Men sway more towards hussies." G-D3 | |
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| AlbertaCrude | Jan 7 2007, 12:25 PM Post #89 |
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I didn't realize the Monroe Doctrine extended beyond the Western hemisphere. |
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| TomK | Jan 7 2007, 01:04 PM Post #90 |
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kenny, Bringing up slavery is very much akin to bringing up Hitler. You kind of loose the argument when you do.
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| TomK | Jan 7 2007, 01:05 PM Post #91 |
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AC, You will note I was commenting on John's take on what the "world" is. |
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| AlbertaCrude | Jan 7 2007, 01:15 PM Post #92 |
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You mean it's not exclusively the Land of the Free & Home of the Brave? |
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| John D'Oh | Jan 7 2007, 01:21 PM Post #93 |
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The second half of my post referred to the Western world. Without wishing to sound too insular, I think the chances of me looking towards China, India and South America for guidance on my social or political behaviour are pretty slim. Others mileage may vary, of course, but I suspect I'm not alone in this regard. |
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| TomK | Jan 7 2007, 01:30 PM Post #94 |
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Hmmm, Well, NOW you say Western world. But, I see world wide trend as cyclical--not linear. Things may get a lot more conservative in the future, too. |
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| John D'Oh | Jan 7 2007, 02:13 PM Post #95 |
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Is the theory of cyclical social trends born out by history? In the 1960's, homosexuality was still illegal in the UK. Before that, women couldn't vote, and before that we still had slavery. I do hope we don't revert too far. |
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| TomK | Jan 7 2007, 03:37 PM Post #96 |
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DAAAAAaaaa. Age of Percales>The age of Alexander. Roman Empire>Dark Ages. Enlightenment>Totalitarianism. Lazie Faire America>socialized America. And it seems to be cycling downward. ![]() We happen to be in something of a Dark Age now--hopefully thing will get better.
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| Daniel\ | Jan 7 2007, 07:41 PM Post #97 |
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Human beings are not dogs, last time I checked. |
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| The 89th Key | Jan 7 2007, 09:25 PM Post #98 |
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So? |
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| Daniel\ | Jan 7 2007, 10:22 PM Post #99 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I'm too tired to talk to you about this. Maybe some other time. |
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