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| should same-sex couples be allowed to raise kids? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 6 2007, 06:04 PM (1,037 Views) | |
| mmmaestro007 | Jan 6 2007, 06:53 PM Post #26 |
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that was a stupid reply! you are only thinking from the parenting side - stop for a second and think - how would you feel if you were riased by two men? honestly? |
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"Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable of giving pleasure to thousands, and all you can do is scratch it!" Sir Thomas Beechem, conductor | |
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| LWpianistin | Jan 6 2007, 06:55 PM Post #27 |
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It's only a stupid reply because you don't agree with it. Yours was stupid because it didn't make sense. |
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| kenny | Jan 6 2007, 06:56 PM Post #28 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Probably less bigoted than you. |
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| mmmaestro007 | Jan 6 2007, 06:58 PM Post #29 |
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but don't forget - for a kid, it's always going to come back the old 'square peg in a triangular hole' - as they say 'turning your back on Mother Nature' - this could be very difficult for a kid to deal with |
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| mmmaestro007 | Jan 6 2007, 07:01 PM Post #30 |
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yes, and probably screwed up as well! |
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| kenny | Jan 6 2007, 07:03 PM Post #31 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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The Kids will pick on them" was one argument used for not allowing black kids into a white school. Isn't school a place to teach reading rithmatic and social skills too? |
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| Jane D'Oh | Jan 6 2007, 07:08 PM Post #32 |
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My son is at school with a boy being raised by two women, I honestly have no clue what their sexuality is, or why he is being raised by them. It is a non issue for his peers at this stage. |
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| Jack Frost | Jan 6 2007, 07:09 PM Post #33 |
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Or one woman who didn't want you? Give me a break! Being wanted, being loved, being raised in a two parent household with a lot of books, music, and love trumps all. jf |
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| mmmaestro007 | Jan 6 2007, 07:10 PM Post #34 |
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yes, but this issue is a lot deeper than black and white, i think it's to do with nature and i think it's a time bomb for kids in this situation |
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| John D'Oh | Jan 6 2007, 07:48 PM Post #35 |
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What is this 'nature' to which you so blithely refer, and which is unique to sexual preference? |
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| dolmansaxlil | Jan 6 2007, 08:33 PM Post #36 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I teach 94 kids in grade 7 and 8. A lot of them are messed up. A lot of them live in extreme poverty. Many of them live in homes where there is no one there in the evenings - ever. Many of those are "raising" their younger brothers and sisters. Some of them are neglected. Some of them come in with suspicious bruises. Some of them are suicidal. Some of them have gone through behaviour programs. Two of them have had their drunk parents arrive to drive them home from school at least once every couple weeks. One of them was held hostage at gunpoint by his father. A group of them were caught smoking pot at lunch, and one of the parents gave it to the kids. Not one of these students has been raised by a gay parent or couple. I'm not saying gay couples would be better at raising kids, but looking at how the straight folks in my community are doing it, I don't think as a society we're in any place to decide we'd be better at it than they are. |
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| Riley | Jan 6 2007, 08:45 PM Post #37 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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YIKES, dol. Which town do you live in again? |
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| Nobody's Sock | Jan 6 2007, 08:49 PM Post #38 |
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Really!! I'm afraid to go to Canada now. Scary place. I guess those South Park guys had it right all along! But back to the topic, what I think would be the driving question on whether it is ok for same sex partners to raise a child is the question of how their sexuality could consiously or subconsiously shape the sexuality of the child. That is the question that I would like answered. |
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| dolmansaxlil | Jan 6 2007, 08:49 PM Post #39 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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A very blue collar town that has lost a lot of jobs to foreign markets. Not to mention a very shallow gene Seriously. I love my school. I love the town I teach in. But white picket fences and mom waiting at the door with freshly baked cookies it ain't. |
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| Riley | Jan 6 2007, 09:00 PM Post #40 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Do you ever do anything about the suspicious bruises? Can you? Actually, I suspect some of the poorer areas of my city are very similar to what you described. Downtown Hamilton is one of the poorest neighborhoods in the country. |
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| LWpianistin | Jan 6 2007, 09:03 PM Post #41 |
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That's just it. It ISN'T deeper than the issue of integration was in the 50s and 60s. If we went back in time (and they had internet back then), you would be on this board defending segregation, and I would be supporting integration, along with Dol, Riley, and others. It's the same argument, just in a different era. |
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| Bernard | Jan 6 2007, 09:09 PM Post #42 |
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My parents were heterosexual and I am homosexual, ergo, heterosexuals should not have children. ? |
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| Bernard | Jan 6 2007, 09:13 PM Post #43 |
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I imagine being raised by two men who weren't hung up by sexuality would feel pretty good. |
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| Bernard | Jan 6 2007, 09:15 PM Post #44 |
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Remind me again... what planet did you say you were from? |
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| dolmansaxlil | Jan 6 2007, 09:30 PM Post #45 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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If we feel that the kids are in danger, we have a legal (not to mention moral) obligation to call CAS. Same goes with neglect. And we do. I could lose my job and my teaching license if I feel a child is in danger and I don't make that phone call. |
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| Riley | Jan 6 2007, 09:32 PM Post #46 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Has action you've taken ever helped? Have angry parents ever approached you? |
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| Mark | Jan 6 2007, 09:43 PM Post #47 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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A homophic, bigoted commie. |
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| Nobody's Sock | Jan 6 2007, 10:01 PM Post #48 |
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Ok, say we do a study. And in this study we have found out that over 75% of children raised by same sex partners turned out to be homosexual. Is this a problem? How about 50%? Does it not even matter no matter what the percentage may be? I don't believe our current society would look too kindly on same sex parenting if the aforementioned results occurred. Kind of gets back to the hypothesis that gays are "hardwired" gay from birth. If we knew this to be true, then my question would be irrelevant. (not going any further with this, too easy to step on barefoot toes around here) |
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| Riley | Jan 6 2007, 10:05 PM Post #49 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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No. |
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| Riley | Jan 6 2007, 10:06 PM Post #50 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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BUT, unfortunately, these kids are still likely to encounter bullying, because their parents are gay. It isn't fair, but it would happen. |
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