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White Trash Christmas; Why is this considered funny?
Topic Started: Dec 18 2006, 03:06 PM (684 Views)
Mikhailoh
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Steve Miller posted this over at WTF. Why is this considered funny, but if you did the same about poor undeucated African Americans it would be racism?

http://www.toonedin.com/movies/WhiteTrashXmas.html

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OperaTenor
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Maybe it's the same kind of contextual situation like where it's okay for African Americans to call each othe "ni&&er", but it's not okay for someone outside the race to call them that(as a generalization).



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CrashTest
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I don't know, maybe a little something called slavery..
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George K
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The tune is by Bob Rivers, who has a bunch of funny Christmas parody songs:

White Trash Christmas

My favorites are "Police Stop my Car" to the tune of Feliz Navidad and "Walkin 'Round in Women's Underwear."

Lacy things the wife is missin'
Didn't ask for her permission
I'm wearing her clothes
Her silk pantyhose
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear

In the store there's a teddy
With little straps like spaghetti
It holds me so tight
Like handcuffs at night
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear

In the office there's a guy named Melvin
He pretends that I am Murphy Brown
He'll say "Are you ready?" we'll say "Whoa, man!
Let's wait until the wife is out of town"

Later on if you wanna
We can dress like Madonna
Put on some eye shade
And join the parade
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear

Lacy things...missin'
Didn't ask...permission
Wearing her clothes...Silk pantyhose
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear
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Daniel\
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Mik I'd like to see it but it won't load on my computer. Will you describe it for me and tell me what specifically you object to?

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OperaTenor
Dec 18 2006, 04:26 PM
Maybe it's the same kind of contextual situation like where it's okay for African Americans to call each othe "ni&&er", but it's not okay for someone outside the race to call them that(as a generalization).

So are you saying that the denizens of WTF are white trash? :leaving:
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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Dec 18 2006, 04:04 PM
OperaTenor
Dec 18 2006, 04:26 PM
Maybe it's the same kind of contextual situation like where it's okay for African Americans to call each othe "ni&&er", but it's not okay for someone outside the race to call them that(as a generalization).

So are you saying that the denizens of WTF are white trash? :leaving:

I can only speak for myself. As is evidenced in my family, there is definitely white trash in my gene pool.

Thank God Altoid got her mother's genes....



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CrashTest
Dec 18 2006, 03:26 PM
I don't know, maybe a little something called slavery..

Well put.
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OperaTenor
Dec 18 2006, 05:14 PM
ivorythumper
Dec 18 2006, 04:04 PM
OperaTenor
Dec 18 2006, 04:26 PM
Maybe it's the same kind of contextual situation like where it's okay for African Americans to call each othe "ni&&er", but it's not okay for someone outside the race to call them that(as a generalization).

So are you saying that the denizens of WTF are white trash? :leaving:

I can only speak for myself. As is evidenced in my family, there is definitely white trash in my gene pool.

Thank God Altoid got her mother's genes....

I just realized the secret of your ragtime prowess -- six fingers on each hand. :lol:
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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ivorythumper
Dec 18 2006, 06:39 PM
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Jolly
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CrashTest
Dec 18 2006, 05:26 PM
I don't know, maybe a little something called slavery..

Sorry bubba, what do you think indentured servitude was?

Nothing but slavery with a time limit.

Furthermore, there was more than one black man in New Orleans circa 1855 who owned other black men...and women.

So go try again, my ignorant one.
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katie
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You know, I watched the thing.

I'm so tired of hearing the numerous similar White Trash parodies.

I remember once living down in a semi-ritsy burb in B'ham, reading books by James Agee and Walker Evans. I think these were called: "Let Us Now Praise Famous Men" and "Their Children After Them". I'd really encourage people to read these books (in sequence) to actually learn something about so called Southern white trash. We all should be so humbled btw, IMO.

I also remember some of the rural white folks who had kids in our ICU, of the transports and travels we did, dipping into rural Alabama and Mississippi. I'm sure glad I met such fine people. I'm sure there was lots more we didn't see beyond the roadside kudzu, the homes and churches too. So much seems hidden and quiet. I'd best respect these folks too. Everyone has their pride, ya know.

The fact is, I'm plain sick of people making fun of others, creating sterotypes, whatever. It's just not funny.

:)

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Mikhailoh
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Thanks, Katie. I've known a lot of these folks too. Most are the salt of the earth.

It is funny how in America only white people can be racist.
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Katie is exactly right, as are you Mik.

This is racist, plain and simple. Granted, if people want to make these parodies, that's fine. I might even laugh at them without thinking. I might laugh at one making fun of poor black folks. Whatever.

But if anyone sits back and claims to fight against racism, and then advocates this, then they are hypocrites.

Slavery has NOTHING to do with this conversation, Kenny and Crash, so try again.

And also, without a doubt the nicest people I've met are those in West Virginia or other small towns in North Carolina, etc. Hands down the nicest.
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Daniel\
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Oh my gosh, what a trip.

I read Katie's post and I thought I was reading Kenny's.

Mik, I ASKED YOU TO TELL ME WHY YOU WERE OFFENDED BECAUSE THIS WON'T LOAD ON MY COMPUTER.
:angry:

I'll try to load it again since you seem to want to make broad statements rather discuss it.
:veryangry:


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Dan, it's just a cartoon with a song playing in the background, making fun of the white trash stereotype.
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OK, I watched it and you're not going to like my answer.

I don't think this is funny- if it was posted on a posting board for my amusement I wouldn't be the least bit amused. I don't know why people think it's funny to make fun of other people and so gratutitously- what's the point.

But no, it's not racist. It is based on class. It does not attribute any characteristics to people based on race. Be a little careful about the fact words have definitions. It wouldn't kill you.

What I'm sick of is all these "it's political correctness gone amuk" posts. They make me want to puke.

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Mikhailoh
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I'm sorry it won't load, Daniel.. but do you really need to see more than the title?
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Dec 18 2006, 08:01 PM
Dan, it's just a cartoon with a song playing in the background, making fun of the white trash stereotype.

Thanks 89th, I didn't think it was funny at all.

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I only watched the first 30 seconds and didn't find it funny either.

I guess some people at WTF would disagree...
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Dec 18 2006, 08:06 PM
I'm sorry it won't load, Daniel.. but do you really need to see more than the title?

Thank Mik, yes I do need to see more than the title though.

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Mikhailoh
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Why? Can you not figure out what it will contain? If the title was ' De Darkies at de Juneteenth Picnic' 'I bet you could find a way to be offended without seeing it.
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Daniel\
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But don't you see- you are projecting on me what you think I should see/think and that I am a liberal hypocrite, which seems to the kind of point you are making in this thread.

In my opinion, it is class based and not race based, it does not attribute characterics to white people as a race.

It's not that black people are making a caricature of white people, it is WHITE people making fun of other white people based on their social class.

It seems more like "ethnic humor" than a "racist caricature" to me and I don't agree with you that it's racism or hypocrisy.

Having said that, if it was my forum, I wouldn't allow it, but it's not.

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Dan, first of all, I dont think Mik is saying you are one of the liberal hypocrites. Just that the title of this thread and his first post should be clear enough that this is just racism.

Secondly, I'm sorry, I have to bring this up. You think that me asking why a certain ethnic group says certain words so incorrectly IS racist...but a cartoon making fun of "white trash" ISN'T racist?!?

If I started a thread asking why "black trash" people say words differently, you wouldn't even get to the part about pronunciation and would be flabbergasted at my reference of "black trash". Am I wrong?

I think Mik has a very valid point that is often, but not often enough, brought up...that in this country, apparently only white people can be racist.
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89th, did you read what I wrote above? Would you do me the honor of reading it and telling me what you disagree with? I cannot have a discussion with you (or anyone) if you are not going to read my posts and in this case- you have ignored everything I have written. I am willing to have this discussion with you, but not if you start from this place of ignoring me. :)

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