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| question for New Yawkahs; a.k.a. 'New Yorkers' | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 6 2006, 10:37 PM (271 Views) | |
| pianojerome | Dec 6 2006, 10:37 PM Post #1 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Why don't you pronounce the 'r's in 'car', 'park', and 'yard'? We do not write "I pawked my caw at Hawvud Yawd", so why do you say it like that? Furthermore, what is this nonsense about "idear" and "umid"? There is no 'r' in "idea", and why don't you pronounce the 'h' in "humid" or "human"? And why do you stress the 'o' in "coffee"? It is not, "cwaaaahfeee", so why do you say it like that?
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| bachophile | Dec 6 2006, 10:53 PM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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thats boston. i have a very neutral american accent even though i grew up in ny but the one thing i still always do is pronounce words with "str" like street or straight as "shtr"...shtreet. i simply cant help it. i grew up on seventy second shtreet. |
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| jon-nyc | Dec 7 2006, 12:22 AM Post #3 |
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Cheers
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I don't have a New York accent, so I can't comment personally. My grandfather was a millionth-generation Bostonian (his ancestors came over in the late 17th century) and he never pronounced his 'r's. I will add that the different social registers are reflected in language and word choice. Many people who grow up here don't develop accents like you describe. |
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| ivorythumper | Dec 7 2006, 12:54 AM Post #4 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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I can't wait to meet you and see if that's true-- we all think we have neutral accents (which is no accent at all? ). :lol:
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| bachophile | Dec 7 2006, 03:28 AM Post #5 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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i really do have a very neutral accent. i dont know why i know this but im sure of it. |
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| Phlebas | Dec 7 2006, 03:58 AM Post #6 |
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Bull-Carp
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Why do people from the midwest talk like they have a sinus infection? PJ, there are a few distinct NY accents. Bronx is totally different from Brooklyn. Carrol O'Connor used a great Queens accent for Archie Bunker, etc. However, there is no NY accent that would sound like "I pawked my caw at Hawvud Yawd." That's a Massachusetts accent. I've lived in NY for years, and have yet to hear anyone say "idear," or "cwaafee," so I don't know what you're on about.
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| Mikhailoh | Dec 7 2006, 04:00 AM Post #7 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Oh, gosh.. I'm originally from Michigan, but raised in SW Ohio. My MI relatives all insist I have a southern accent. But they all sound like they're from Wisconsin, so what do they know? |
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| Frank_W | Dec 7 2006, 05:14 AM Post #8 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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Having grown up in California and living in Japan for ten years, I have no accent at all. Makes it convenient for learning other languages.
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| The 89th Key | Dec 7 2006, 07:15 AM Post #9 |
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It's an interesting human trait. You know, how accents slowly evolve, move geographically, or change completely over time. People slowly sound more and more like those around them. I guess it's just a natural way that a group (city, region, race, nation, etc) forms an identity without really trying. |
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| ***musical princess*** | Dec 7 2006, 07:16 AM Post #10 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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hehe, funniest thing i ever heard. Myself trying to say those phrases you wrote in a British/New York ish/Almost Russian like accent. :lol: x |
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| ***musical princess*** | Dec 7 2006, 07:17 AM Post #11 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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How can you have no accent? x |
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| Jolly | Dec 7 2006, 07:18 AM Post #12 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Accent? Ah don' thank so... |
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| ***musical princess*** | Dec 7 2006, 07:19 AM Post #13 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Nah man, me neava. x |
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| jazzyd | Dec 7 2006, 11:54 AM Post #14 |
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Junior Carp
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Sam, don't you have an online research account of some sort from your university? Why not do a search in American Speech, The English Journal, etc.? |
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| pianojerome | Dec 7 2006, 09:21 PM Post #15 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I was just responding to 89th who aksed that similar question about another accent. |
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| David Burton | Dec 7 2006, 09:37 PM Post #16 |
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Senior Carp
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Oh. Well American accents have certain ranges. For instance from the Carolinas west back through Oklahoma and Texas what happens is that the watery drawl of the South Carolinian becomes the back of your throat Texan. There are many interesting and distinct accents in the Northeast. Some hit you as soon as you get to New York City, but then the Philadelphians have a singular accent as also the way they say certain words in Baltimore, or even the way they pronounce Baltimore. Real Virginians have about the most elegant Southern accents but these days you can encounter lots of the same as far north as southern Pennsylvania. There is also a distinctive Pittsburgher accent, and Pittsburgh is a lot more interesting than most people could even imagine. Chicagoans say "car" in a unique way. The beginning of the flat Western style accents begins in St. Louis and passes over notably flat non accented regions like Kansas, Wyoming, Arizona and Nevada until you encounter the various subtle Californian accents, especially of the prune pickers and their descendants. People in the Northwest speak with a watery accent. Canadians speak as if they're really from somewhere else but it's not clear just where that is. They also pronounce certain words in a unique fashion so when you hear one you say to yourself, "That person must be a Canadian." |
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| The 89th Key | Dec 7 2006, 09:41 PM Post #17 |
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You racist!
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