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| My parents were right about Roosevelt | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 27 2006, 11:38 AM (308 Views) | |
| George K | Nov 27 2006, 11:38 AM Post #1 |
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The Deal on the Baltics Russia's foreign intelligence service SVR this week released declassified files and said in a statement the West regarded the removal of pro-German influences from the Baltics and occupation by Soviet forces "a necessary and timely step." Latvia on Friday attacked the timing of the release ahead of the November 28-29 summit of NATO leaders. The subject of the Soviet occupation of the Baltics, in 1940 and resumed again in 1944 after the Germans were driven out, is an emotionally-charged one in the region. "First, this is an attempt to indirectly disrupt relations between our countries," Foreign Minister Artis Pabriks told Reuters. "Second, it looks like they are trying to find someone to share the guilt with, which would anyway fall on Russia." Latvia will welcome 26 heads of state, including President Bush, and 5,000 guests to its capital Riga for the first meeting of the alliance on ex-Soviet soil. Latvian President Vaira Vike-Freiberga hailed the summit as a chance to banish the last bitter memories of Soviet dominance. Lithuania and Estonia had little response on Friday to the SVR statement. Officials in the two nations called it a matter for historians, not politicians. However, former Lithuanian President and member of the European Parliament, Vytautas Landsbergis, said the move was a calculated one by Moscow. "It is an attempt to discredit Russia's critics from the new EU and NATO member states, which suffered from the Soviet occupation," he said. According to the statement, the declassified documents related to events in the Baltic in the pre-war years and during the "Great Patriotic War." "The removal of pro-German regimes in the Baltics and the arrival of Soviet forces in the region in that military-political situation, when Europe was faced with the question "to be or not to be," was seen in Western democracies as unpleasant, but without doubt a necessary and timely step," the Russian statement said. The Baltic states of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia achieved their independence from the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, after decades of often brutal rule by Moscow. "There was nothing the UK or the U.S. could have done to assist us against the occupation of our country," Latvia's Foreign Minister Pabriks said on Friday. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| John D'Oh | Nov 27 2006, 11:44 AM Post #2 |
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I think Roosevelt and Churchill's hands were pretty much tied. That being said, FDR's physical condition probably didn't help a whole lot when attempting to negotiate with Stalin. |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| Dewey | Nov 27 2006, 12:40 PM Post #3 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Why, was Stalin well known for settling diplomatic differences by Indian leg wrestling?
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685. "Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous "Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011 I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14 | |
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| TomK | Nov 27 2006, 12:53 PM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Roosevelt was wrong: The Four Freedoms: Freedom of speech and expression Freedom of every person to worship God in his own way Freedom from want Freedom from fear The moment freedom is defined, it's lost. Roosevelt solidified Toltarianism. |
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| John D'Oh | Nov 27 2006, 12:55 PM Post #5 |
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Generally he used massed tank formations with air support as needed. |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| Dewey | Nov 27 2006, 01:00 PM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Air support via swallows carrying coconuts, or - oh wait, wrong thread... |
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685. "Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous "Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011 I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14 | |
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| Mark | Nov 27 2006, 02:13 PM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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African Swalllows? :lol: |
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___.___ (_]===* o 0 When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells | |
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| Kincaid | Nov 27 2006, 02:48 PM Post #8 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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You guys are great. I love this place. |
| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| Dewey | Nov 27 2006, 02:59 PM Post #9 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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No, but George Michael does. I'm so very, very sorry... |
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685. "Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous "Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011 I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14 | |
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| Jane D'Oh | Nov 27 2006, 03:40 PM Post #10 |
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I couldn't be more shocked and appalled by that comment
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| Jolly | Nov 27 2006, 04:56 PM Post #11 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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[Foxworthy mode ON] Damn, Bubba, I can't believe he said that! [Foxworthy mode OFF] |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Dewey | Nov 27 2006, 06:02 PM Post #12 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685. "Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous "Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011 I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14 | |
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| David Burton | Nov 27 2006, 09:39 PM Post #13 |
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Senior Carp
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"My parents were right about Roosevelt" Both parents? |
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| Frank_W | Nov 28 2006, 05:10 AM Post #14 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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S'okay... Boy George gargles!!
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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