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Iraq 'worse than Vietnam'; egad!
Topic Started: Nov 27 2006, 11:23 AM (182 Views)
mmmaestro007
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200611/s1798632.htm

"A security expert says he believes coalition forces face the prospect of defeat in Iraq with serious consequences.
Former soldier and military historian Robert O'Neill says it is likely the coalition will pull its troops out early.
In a speech to the Lowy Institute in Sydney tonight, Professor O'Neill, who served during the Vietnam War, described Iraq as "an even worse problem than Vietnam".
He says the coalition invaded Iraq with a flawed strategy, insufficient troops to do the job, and no policy in place for responding to the insurgency and chaos that would follow the toppling of Saddam Hussein.
"I don't think that our Government had any idea of the morass that is was about to set foot into," he said.
Professor O'Neill says the coalition should have foreseen the need for a much greater number of troops to restore order to Iraq.
"People who'd known a bit of history would have, first of all, expected the place to blow up mightily once Saddam's authority was removed," he said."
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John D'Oh
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mmmaestro007
Nov 27 2006, 02:23 PM
"People who'd known a bit of history would have, first of all, expected the place to blow up mightily once Saddam's authority was removed," he said."

This is the bit that puzzles me, and he's absolutely correct. Why was it apparently overlooked?
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I'm honestly puzzled as to how one can label us leaving early as "defeat". We came in, we beat the Iraq army, we have accomplished everything we set out to do except leave with Iraq in relative peace. If we left early, it might be irresponsible, premature, but it would most certainly not be a defeat.
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Nov 27 2006, 02:40 PM
I'm honestly puzzled as to how one can label us leaving early as "defeat". We came in, we beat the Iraq army, we have accomplished everything we set out to do except leave with Iraq in relative peace. If we left early, it might be irresponsible, premature, but it would most certainly not be a defeat.

That's what some say about Vietnam. It's bollocks. The only really important objective is the lasting one.
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Leaving Iraq worse off and a worse threat to the world than we entered it is a defeat by any calculus.
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Nov 27 2006, 03:49 PM
Leaving Iraq worse off and a worse threat to the world than we entered it is a defeat by any calculus.

For sure!
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