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Waste management policies
Topic Started: Nov 26 2006, 07:21 PM (523 Views)
Riley
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What are the municipal waste management policies in your areas?

I live in Hamilton(The Westernmost point of the Greater Toronto Area, about 45 mins west of Toronto in good traffic.)

The policy here is a three bag limit per week for garbage. The city provides you with a 'green cart', which is similar to a recycling bin, only it is for food waste, and other compost material.

Most of my family live in the Eastern suburbs of Toronto(Mainly Ajax/Whitby for those familiar with the Toronto area) and they have reported that in Oshawa(Easternmost point of the GTA) they have a 4 bag limit, and a green cart system, and if you don't put out your green cart, they will actually rip open your bags to see if you have thrown out anything that should be in the green cart.(Seems a bit extreme) If you have, they do not take your bags.

Do any other areas have such a progressive waste management system?
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CTPianotech
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Some towns here in CT require everyone to use clear plastic garbage bags, so that the garbage men can make certain no one threw away potentially recyclable items. Not exactly the first frikkin thing that'd be on my mind if I was out in the freezing cold/pouring rain/scorching heat, throwing stinky garbage into the back of a big stinky truck.
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kenny
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We get one large can for recycling and another for everything else.
We fill them up about equally.
(We do not get a can for compost-able lawn clippings, I guess it just goes to the landfill.)

I'm not sure how closely they look but there is a video camera that films the stuff as it is falling out of the cans.

What a country!?!

Oh, also we can call twice a year and they will schedule a time to pick up reasonable household quantities of things like tree clippings, old refrigerator, etc for free.
They will not haul away the debris from things like a remodel project though, or if you obviously have a business.
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I'm not sure how closely they look but there is a video camera that films the stuff as it is falling out of the cans.


Just for kicks, why don't try throwing out a mannequin with a black hood tied over its head.
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kenny
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Nov 26 2006, 07:55 PM
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I'm not sure how closely they look but there is a video camera that films the stuff as it is falling out of the cans.


Just for kicks, why don't try throwing out a mannequin with a black hood tied over its head.

:lol2:

Hahaha.

Thanks, I don't need the excitement.

You do it. :P
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My garbage guys don't give a flying frig, as long as whatever it is, its neatly bundled and easy to lift.
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kenny
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Nov 26 2006, 08:02 PM
My garbage guys don't give a flying frig, as long as whatever it is, its neatly bundled and easy to lift.

Just be sure to drain out all the blood first, and you're good to go. :thumb:
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AlbertaCrude
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Riley
Nov 26 2006, 07:21 PM
What are the municipal waste management policies in your areas?

....

Do any other areas have such a progressive waste management system?

Alberta and specifically the City of Edmonton set the standard for waste management for North America. We are simply the very best.

http://www.ewmce.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

http://www.gmcanada.com/inm/gmcanada/engli...aily/Oct04.html

http://www.edmonton.ca/portal/server.pt/ga...ecycling/waste/
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When we lived in Peterborough (keep going past Oshawa for about 45 mins) we had a two bag limit plus a big blue box. The two bag limit was tough when we had zillions of teeny baby diapers - I think John jumped up and down on the trash to compact it some weeks! And we had to sort all the recycling which would take about 1/2 hr per week.

Now we can put out as much as we want BUT we have to pay per item - $1.25 per regular sized trash can. Recycling goes out in two containers so significantly less sorting. I found out the hard way that they tear open any bags they suspect contain compostables - we are supposed to deliver those to the site ourselves apparently.

Pfft.
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Jane D'Oh
Nov 27 2006, 12:46 PM
When we lived in Peterborough (keep going past Oshawa for about 45 mins) we had a two bag limit plus a big blue box. The two bag limit was tough when we had zillions of teeny baby diapers - I think John jumped up and down on the trash to compact it some weeks! And we had to sort all the recycling which would take about 1/2 hr per week.

Now we can put out as much as we want BUT we have to pay per item - $1.25 per regular sized trash can. Recycling goes out in two containers so significantly less sorting. I found out the hard way that they tear open any bags they suspect contain compostables - we are supposed to deliver those to the site ourselves apparently.

I live in America.

I leave it. The man takes it--no questions asked.

And that's the way I like it.
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Nov 27 2006, 08:50 AM
I live in America.


No sh1T Sherlock!

So does Jane D'Oh and everyone else who has so far posted in this thread.
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TomK
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AlbertaCrude
Nov 27 2006, 12:54 PM
TomK
Nov 27 2006, 08:50 AM
I live in America.


No sh1T Sherlock!

So does Jane D'Oh and everyone else who has so far posted in this thread.

Well,

OK AC, calm down--it's not about the ACTUAL PLACE of America that I'm talking about--it's about the ideal. America is a real place to be sure--but I meant AMERICA as a metaphor. A place where minor problems such as garbage are taken care of by those that do such things. I'm sure garbage pick up like anything else can be a profitable business--if one tries.

Ask the mafia!
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I'd like to suggest Tom, that in places where there are no limits as to what you can dispose of, people will throw things away more readily than in places where to dispose of a bookcase (for example) require some effort.

John and I lived in Canton for a while which had little regulation as far as we could see and were shocked by what was lying by the side of the road each week.

It's not that I need folk to keep the stuff they're done with, but it seemed like fewer people would donate stuff to charity or pass it along to family, or whatever, because of the effort involved - so much easy just to throw it away.
Pfft.
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Nov 27 2006, 01:08 PM
I'd like to suggest Tom, that in places where there are no limits as to what you can dispose of, people will throw things away more readily than in places where to dispose of a bookcase (for example) require some effort.

John and I lived in Canton for a while which had little regulation as far as we could see and were shocked by what was lying by the side of the road each week.

It's not that I need folk to keep the stuff they're done with, but it seemed like fewer people would donate stuff to charity or pass it along to family, or whatever, because of the effort involved - so much easy just to throw it away.


My Sweet Lady Jane,

Here in Florida it's clean. The roads, the woods, the sides of the interstate highways. Not perfect, of course. But they pick up all and it's all gone.

All I ask.

When the discussion of garbage disposal becomes part of the commonweal, it's not a breakdown of the garbage system--it's a breakdown of the municipal government that makes the minutiae of civilized life possible. Fix it.

VOTE REPBULICAN.
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Nov 27 2006, 09:04 AM
A place where minor problems such as garbage are taken care of by those that do such things. I'm sure garbage pick up like anything else can be a profitable business--if one tries.

Ask the mafia!

The management of garbage is not a minor problem. It is a major infrastructure engineering challenge. And yes it is profitable provided there is a transparent regulatory system in place into which industry can have input and respond.
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The Woodlands is quite persnickety about appearance. You can't take your garbage out until the night before pickup, and it can't be visible during the week. The next morning you'd better take it back or you'll get an ugly notice.

We have a big brown trash can for trash, and they haul away yard trash and recycles and the house trash (all with seperate trucks) on the same day. It's paid for in the (exorbitant) dues you pay to the WCA (basically what you pay to live in The Woodlands).
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AlbertaCrude
Nov 27 2006, 01:27 PM
TomK
Nov 27 2006, 09:04 AM
A place where minor problems such as garbage are taken care of by those that do such things.  I'm sure garbage pick up like anything else can be a profitable business--if one tries.

Ask the mafia!

The management of garbage is not a minor problem. It is a major infrastructure engineering challenge. And yes it is profitable provided there is a transparent regulatory system in place into which industry can have input and respond.

Then fine not minor--major.

But, such thing should be taken care of by municipal authorities that should be somewhat competent at their jobs.

I don't want anything for free. I PAY for these thing to be taken care of--through my taxes.

They have my money--now DO IT!
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Nov 27 2006, 12:20 PM
Here in Florida it's clean. The roads, the woods, the sides of the interstate highways. Not perfect, of course. But they pick up all and it's all gone.

All I ask.

When the discussion of garbage disposal becomes part of the commonweal, it's not a breakdown of the garbage system--it's a breakdown of the municipal government that makes the minutiae of civilized life possible. Fix it.

Er.. I wasn't actually referring to trash that was not picked up, it was 'clean'.

I was expressing shock at the types of object that were discarded.
Pfft.
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TomK
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Jane D'Oh
Nov 27 2006, 01:39 PM

I was expressing shock at the types of object that were discarded.

How interesting that you would be so interested in other people's garbage.

A fetish thing--to be sure. :cool:
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Pfft.
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sue
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We pay about $75 a year for a one-can sticker.(bags are too risky; we have some pretty clever crows and ravens around here :P ) You want two cans, the second can is twice the price. I think having to pay extra makes you think about what you throw away, and make the effort to recycle, compost, etc. We have to take our recycling to the depot, and sort it.
I think it is good to have to think about where your refuse goes, and not to just assume it's someone else's problem, and will magically disappear.
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TomK
Nov 27 2006, 12:04 PM
AlbertaCrude
Nov 27 2006, 12:54 PM
TomK
Nov 27 2006, 08:50 AM
I live in America.


No sh1T Sherlock!

So does Jane D'Oh and everyone else who has so far posted in this thread.

Well,

OK AC, calm down--it's not about the ACTUAL PLACE of America that I'm talking about--it's about the ideal. America is a real place to be sure--but I meant AMERICA as a metaphor.

AMERICA is a metaphor? A metaphor for what? Vast amounts of fatty foods, cheap gas, and sub-par language skills?
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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:no: John hasn't had a drink in several days... :P
Pfft.
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