Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to The New Coffee Room. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
  • Pages:
  • 1
Dixie Chicks..; Ever the classless act
Topic Started: Nov 10 2006, 03:39 AM (490 Views)
Mikhailoh
Member Avatar
If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
Too bad.. I used to like their music, but they have turned themselves into some personalities instead of artists.

"According to Entertainment Weekly, one memorable scene from "Dixie Chicks: Shut Up and Sing" shows the singers watching a news report on President Bush's reaction to their infamous on-stage comment. In the report, Bush says ''the Dixie Chicks are free to speak their mind,'' adding, ''they shouldn't have their feelings hurt just because some people don't want to buy their records when they speak out. You know, freedom is a two-way street.'' After watching this footage, Maines then repeats the president's comment and says, ''What a dumb f---.'' She then looks into the camera, as if addressing Bush himself, and reiterates, ''You're a dumb f---.''"


Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
The 89th Key
Member Avatar

Based on her response, sounds like she's talking to herself.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Jolly
Member Avatar
Geaux Tigers!
Yesterday's act....
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
Online Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
ny1911
Member Avatar
Senior Carp
Their publicity manager must be going nuts.
So live your life and live it well.
There's not much left of me to tell.
I just got back up each time I fell.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
LadyElton
Fulla-Carp
The way I see it is they're allowed to have their opinions. I still like some of their songs. I think the backlash really hurt them. I don't think they expexted such a huge response. Maines was just speaking her mind, although I do think the timing was bad as it was shortly after 9/11. Christ, look at all the times Elton has spoken out against something or someone and come across as a bitch or diva. I may or may not agree with what they said, but I still like them as artists.
Hilary aka LadyElton
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
John D'Oh
Member Avatar
MAMIL
What gives these people the idea that the abilitity to sing in tune most of the time gives them carte blanche to bore the rest of us to death with their tedious and ill-informed opinions on that which they know nothing? If I want ill-informed opinions, I can come here, thanks very much. I'd much rather talk to the idiots here than someone who makes 10 million a year for singing songs.

How many Divisions have The Dixie Chicks?



John D'Oh, AEJAE

(Armchair Expert on Just About Everything)
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
Online Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Dave Spelvin
Member Avatar
Fulla-Carp
I understand they're bigger than they've ever been, just not in the territories where they first achieved fame. Like David Hasselhoff, they're huge in Germany. Well, maybe Australia.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
ivorythumper
Member Avatar
I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
Dave Spelvin
Nov 10 2006, 09:28 AM
Like David Hasselhoff, they're huge in Germany.

What a glorious legacy....
The dogma lives loudly within me.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
DivaDeb
HOLY CARP!!!
wtf???
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
JBryan
Member Avatar
I am the grey one
Of course, there is the dreaded HASSELHOFFIAN RECURSION
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Mikhailoh
Member Avatar
If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
I have nothing against them, and I used to be able to enjoy their music. As a matter of fact, I took Janet to see them AFTER Maines' statement on Bush. I agree everyone has the right to speak their mind.

But this continuing to harp on it and play the victim is tiresome and appears to be self-absorbed. They certainly have the right to do so, and if that is what they think is right, well, have at it. But I won't be listening. And I seriously doubt they are bigger than ever.
Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Dave Spelvin
Member Avatar
Fulla-Carp
Mikhailoh
Nov 10 2006, 08:54 AM
I have nothing against them, and I used to be able to enjoy their music. As a matter of fact, I took Janet to see them AFTER Maines' statement on Bush. I agree everyone has the right to speak their mind.

But this continuing to harp on it and play the victim is tiresome and appears to be self-absorbed. They certainly have the right to do so, and if that is what they think is right, well, have at it. But I won't be listening. And I seriously doubt they are bigger than ever.

I find it difficult to name an artist who isn't self-absorbed. It's their job to be that way. I'm sure it wasn't easy watching their fans disappear after what's-her-name spoke her mind. But it seems to have led to some pretty good art.

I never listened to them, so they haven't lost me. But if I did listen, I wouldn't care about their politics. It's not as though I turn off Devil Went Down to Georgia when it comes on the radio just because Charlie Daniels is to the right of Larry.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Mikhailoh
Member Avatar
If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
No one is the the right of Larry, Dave.
Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Dave Spelvin
Member Avatar
Fulla-Carp
Mikhailoh
Nov 10 2006, 09:01 AM
No one is the the right of Larry, Dave.

Maybe Genghis Khan? I can't think of anyone else. Some help please...
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Luke's Dad
Member Avatar
Emperor Pengin
Dave Spelvin
Nov 10 2006, 01:00 PM
Mikhailoh
Nov 10 2006, 08:54 AM
I have nothing against them, and I used to be able to enjoy their music. As a matter of fact, I took Janet to see them AFTER Maines' statement on Bush.  I agree everyone has the right to speak their mind.

But this continuing to harp on it and play the victim is tiresome and  appears to be self-absorbed.  They certainly have the right to do so, and if that is what they think is right, well, have at it.  But I won't be listening.  And I seriously doubt they are bigger than ever.

I find it difficult to name an artist who isn't self-absorbed. It's their job to be that way. I'm sure it wasn't easy watching their fans disappear after what's-her-name spoke her mind. But it seems to have led to some pretty good art.

I never listened to them, so they haven't lost me. But if I did listen, I wouldn't care about their politics. It's not as though I turn off Devil Went Down to Georgia when it comes on the radio just because Charlie Daniels is to the right of Larry.

Something tells me that "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" doesn't come on your radio stations very much, Dave.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Dave Spelvin
Member Avatar
Fulla-Carp
Luke's Dad
Nov 10 2006, 09:10 AM
Dave Spelvin
Nov 10 2006, 01:00 PM
Mikhailoh
Nov 10 2006, 08:54 AM
I have nothing against them, and I used to be able to enjoy their music. As a matter of fact, I took Janet to see them AFTER Maines' statement on Bush.  I agree everyone has the right to speak their mind.

But this continuing to harp on it and play the victim is tiresome and  appears to be self-absorbed.  They certainly have the right to do so, and if that is what they think is right, well, have at it.  But I won't be listening.  And I seriously doubt they are bigger than ever.

I find it difficult to name an artist who isn't self-absorbed. It's their job to be that way. I'm sure it wasn't easy watching their fans disappear after what's-her-name spoke her mind. But it seems to have led to some pretty good art.

I never listened to them, so they haven't lost me. But if I did listen, I wouldn't care about their politics. It's not as though I turn off Devil Went Down to Georgia when it comes on the radio just because Charlie Daniels is to the right of Larry.

Something tells me that "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" doesn't come on your radio stations very much, Dave.

Not since CBS-FM went off the air, but I used to hear it all the time on the oldies station. I always thought the demonic fiddling wasn't as demonic as it should have been. You know what I listen to? Oh right. I'm way too sophisticated to listen to this. For me, Mozart or nothing.

Turning off the snark, I'm not especially a Charlie Daniels fan, but I consider Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline and George Jones to be among America's greatest artists. I think you'd have to be deaf not to hear what's coming through them. Cash particularly impressed me with his later work. The man's depth was bottomless.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
AlbertaCrude
Bull-Carp
Yes, some celebrities do like to meddle......there's a peculiar irony for a select few of us behind this piece:


Lecture us no more, Mr. Bono

It's nice to see that Madonna has come down from her neon cross -- a Las Vegas-looking crucifixion of the emphatically Material Girl was part of the safe shock of her recent tour.

After all, if you can't blaspheme Christianity these days, what can you blaspheme?

Now she's descended on Africa, following the trendy spangled footsteps of Brad and Angelina and other monstrously rich celebrities who have turned Africa and its misery into their own publicity-fat conscience theme park. They should start a foundation.

Good deeds that make it to "Entertainment Tonight", adoptions that land you the cover of people magazine.

Madonna and her entourage and her private jet and Guy Ritchie have plucked one African baby from an orphanage and the world is all a-whistle at another celebrity good deed.

The story is almost big enough to drown out the news that U2, the famous Irish band, has moved some of its assets from Ireland to the Netherlands. The Netherlands has a very favourable tax rate, even better than Ireland, which for artists is already a tax haven of unimaginable indulgence. U2 is of course Bono's band, Bono, the Stephen Forbes business partner and the greatest scold of "rich" governments on the face of the earth. Bono was the man who nagged Paul Martin in public for Canada's not giving enough for African debt relief, but then Bono, friend of Bill Clinton, consort of the princes of the world, World Economic Forum attendee, gazillionaire, nags everyone about Africa.

He even read the riot act of Liberal outrage to his own government because the Irish government, like Canada, was slack on debt relief for Africa. Uriah Heap with groupies. Bono and his multimillionaire band-mates have hauled their songwriting business out of Ireland because Ireland has modestly upped the tax levy on artists making over half a million a year. So he wants Ireland to give more of its taxes to help poor Africa, but he, Bono, wants to pay less taxes to Ireland.

I'd call him a "whited sepulchre" except that's a biblical reference, and Madonna would probably claim copyright.

Bono had no hesitation at a concert here last year around election time tagging Paul Martin, his friend, for not living up to the pledge Martin made to increase Canada's foreign aid.

Bono said he was crushed. Well, I guess the "Make Poverty History" front-man has less trouble with inconsistency and hypocrisy when it's his bank account and his band-mates' bank accounts that actually take the hit.

Yet Bono's been shining his rock star celebrity halo so assiduously in public that you'd think he was a cross between Mother Theresa and Cardinal Leger.

This guy has been lecturing whole continents for decades — he's the self-declared pope of poverty — about Africa, but now hauls part of his empire from his home country to Amsterdam. Lecture us no more, Mr. Bono. A tax haven is not a pulpit. Amsterdam is not an African village. However, all is not lost. Maybe Bono will adopt someone. Let us pray, let us all pray it's Madonna. They deserve each other.

~Rex Murphy, Viewpoint, 17 October 2006

http://www.cbc.ca/national/rex/rex_061017.html
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Jolly
Member Avatar
Geaux Tigers!
Dave Spelvin
Nov 10 2006, 11:17 AM
Luke's Dad
Nov 10 2006, 09:10 AM
Dave Spelvin
Nov 10 2006, 01:00 PM
Mikhailoh
Nov 10 2006, 08:54 AM
I have nothing against them, and I used to be able to enjoy their music. As a matter of fact, I took Janet to see them AFTER Maines' statement on Bush.  I agree everyone has the right to speak their mind.

But this continuing to harp on it and play the victim is tiresome and  appears to be self-absorbed.  They certainly have the right to do so, and if that is what they think is right, well, have at it.  But I won't be listening.  And I seriously doubt they are bigger than ever.

I find it difficult to name an artist who isn't self-absorbed. It's their job to be that way. I'm sure it wasn't easy watching their fans disappear after what's-her-name spoke her mind. But it seems to have led to some pretty good art.

I never listened to them, so they haven't lost me. But if I did listen, I wouldn't care about their politics. It's not as though I turn off Devil Went Down to Georgia when it comes on the radio just because Charlie Daniels is to the right of Larry.

Something tells me that "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" doesn't come on your radio stations very much, Dave.

Not since CBS-FM went off the air, but I used to hear it all the time on the oldies station. I always thought the demonic fiddling wasn't as demonic as it should have been. You know what I listen to? Oh right. I'm way too sophisticated to listen to this. For me, Mozart or nothing.

Turning off the snark, I'm not especially a Charlie Daniels fan, but I consider Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline and George Jones to be among America's greatest artists. I think you'd have to be deaf not to hear what's coming through them. Cash particularly impressed me with his later work. The man's depth was bottomless.

Don't know how well Larry knew Johnny, but it might surprise you some of the things he can relate about the Carters...
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
Online Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Dave Spelvin
Member Avatar
Fulla-Carp
That seems harsh on Bono. He seeks tax relief, as does every other rich person and company on the planet, and he gets slammed for using his celebrity to focus people's attention on Africa. He spends his time and I'll bet he spends a lot of money on his interests. Yes, he's a scold. Do we prefer utter silence from our artists? Should they do nothing but entertain us? Can anyone name something better he can do with his time? I'm glad when these folks have a social conscience. It doesn't mean I have to agree with them, but due in no small part to Bono, Africa is on the map, so to speak. On the other hand, Barbra Streisand can shut up.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Dave Spelvin
Member Avatar
Fulla-Carp
Jolly
Nov 10 2006, 09:53 AM
Dave Spelvin
Nov 10 2006, 11:17 AM
Luke's Dad
Nov 10 2006, 09:10 AM
Dave Spelvin
Nov 10 2006, 01:00 PM
Mikhailoh
Nov 10 2006, 08:54 AM
I have nothing against them, and I used to be able to enjoy their music. As a matter of fact, I took Janet to see them AFTER Maines' statement on Bush.  I agree everyone has the right to speak their mind.

But this continuing to harp on it and play the victim is tiresome and  appears to be self-absorbed.  They certainly have the right to do so, and if that is what they think is right, well, have at it.  But I won't be listening.  And I seriously doubt they are bigger than ever.

I find it difficult to name an artist who isn't self-absorbed. It's their job to be that way. I'm sure it wasn't easy watching their fans disappear after what's-her-name spoke her mind. But it seems to have led to some pretty good art.

I never listened to them, so they haven't lost me. But if I did listen, I wouldn't care about their politics. It's not as though I turn off Devil Went Down to Georgia when it comes on the radio just because Charlie Daniels is to the right of Larry.

Something tells me that "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" doesn't come on your radio stations very much, Dave.

Not since CBS-FM went off the air, but I used to hear it all the time on the oldies station. I always thought the demonic fiddling wasn't as demonic as it should have been. You know what I listen to? Oh right. I'm way too sophisticated to listen to this. For me, Mozart or nothing.

Turning off the snark, I'm not especially a Charlie Daniels fan, but I consider Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline and George Jones to be among America's greatest artists. I think you'd have to be deaf not to hear what's coming through them. Cash particularly impressed me with his later work. The man's depth was bottomless.

Don't know how well Larry knew Johnny, but it might surprise you some of the things he can relate about the Carters...

I'd love to hear any stories Larry wants to share.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
musicasacra
Member Avatar
HOLY CARP!!!
we go to hear them in concert to be entertained, to enjoy their music -- not to listen to them on their soapbox. if they want to voice their political opinions, do not do it while we're paying to hear their music!

i avoid artists who get political (for either side) in their concerts.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Frank_W
Member Avatar
Resident Misanthrope
musicasacra
Nov 10 2006, 10:04 AM
we go to hear them in concert to be entertained, to enjoy their music -- not to listen to them on their soapbox. if they want to voice their political opinions, do not do it while we're paying to hear their music!

i avoid artists who get political (for either side) in their concerts.

Ditto. I didn't pay to attend a socio-political rally. I paid for a rock concert. Shut-up and give me what I plunked down my cash for. Even if I agree with someone's politics, I didn't go to a MUSIC concert to hear it. STFU and entertain!
Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin."
Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!"
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Daniel\
Member Avatar
Fulla-Carp
Mikhailoh
Nov 10 2006, 08:54 AM
But this continuing to harp on it and play the victim is tiresome and appears to be self-absorbed.

It does. It's not like the rest of us can't tell they're acting like spoiled children.


Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
mmmaestro007
Member Avatar
Middle Aged Carp
Dave Spelvin
Nov 11 2006, 02:32 AM
Mikhailoh
Nov 10 2006, 09:01 AM
No one is the the right of Larry, Dave.

Maybe Genghis Khan? I can't think of anyone else. Some help please...

Hitler!
"Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable of giving pleasure to thousands, and all you can do is scratch it!"

Sir Thomas Beechem, conductor
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Daniel\
Member Avatar
Fulla-Carp
Dave Spelvin
Nov 10 2006, 10:02 AM
That seems harsh on Bono. He seeks tax relief, as does every other rich person and company on the planet, and he gets slammed for using his celebrity to focus people's attention on Africa. He spends his time and I'll bet he spends a lot of money on his interests. Yes, he's a scold. Do we prefer utter silence from our artists? Should they do nothing but entertain us? Can anyone name something better he can do with his time? I'm glad when these folks have a social conscience. It doesn't mean I have to agree with them, but due in no small part to Bono, Africa is on the map, so to speak. On the other hand, Barbra Streisand can shut up.

I vote for just entertain us. Anything else is self appointed and gratuitous not to mention cloying. There's a difference between being a true leader from whatever background and being an artist with a cause.



Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Create a free forum in seconds.
Learn More · Register Now
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · The New Coffee Room · Next Topic »
Add Reply
  • Pages:
  • 1