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| Best & Worst New Cars; Consumer Reports: GM & Ford Improving | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 9 2006, 02:04 PM (257 Views) | |
| kenny | Nov 9 2006, 02:04 PM Post #1 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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According to Consumer Reports 2006 reliability survey, these vehicles scored the highest or the lowest. Upscale/large cars Most reliable Lexus ES350 Lincoln Zephyr Hyundai Azera Acura TSX Acura TL Least reliable Jaguar X-Type Chrysler 300 (V-8) Saab 9-3 Luxury cars Most reliable Lexus LS (2006) Infiniti M* Least reliable Cadillac STS (V-8) Mercedes-Benz S-Class (2006) Mercedes-Benz CLS Mercedes-Benz E-Class sedan BMW 7 Series Jaguar S-Type Sports/sporty cars Most reliable Lexus SC Toyota Camry Solara (4-cyl.) Subaru Impreza WRX Honda S2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse Mini Cooper Hatchback (2006) Least reliable Pontiac Solstice Mercedes-Benz SL Mercedes-Benz SLK (V-6) Chevrolet Corvette Porsche 911, Carrera Ford Mustang (V-6) Wagons/minivans Most reliable Pontiac Vibe Scion xB Toyota Matrix Toyota Sienna Least reliable Buick Terraza Chevrolet Uplander Saturn Relay Nissan Quest Small SUVs Most reliable Toyota FJ Cruiser Honda Element Honda CR-V (2006) Toyota RAV4 Mitsubishi Outlander (2006) Subaru Forester Least reliable Kia Sportage Midsized SUVs Most reliable Toyota Highlander Hybrid Toyota 4Runner Toyota Highlander Honda Pilot Lexus RX400h (hybrid) Acura MDX (2006) Least reliable Mercedes-Benz M-Class Land Rover LR3 (V-8) Mercedes-Benz R-Class Volkswagen Touareg Jeep Grand Cherokee Hummer H3 BMW X5 (V-8, 2006) Volvo XC90 (6 and 8-cyl.) Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer (V-8 cyl.) Pickup trucks Most reliable Subaru Baja Toyota Tundra Toyota Tacoma Nissan Frontier (V-6) Least reliable Nissan Titan Ford F-250 (turbodiesel) Dodge Dakota (4WD) Cadillac Escalade EXT (2006) Small cars Most reliable Honda Fit Toyota Yaris Honda Civic Hybrid Toyota Corolla Least reliable Chevrolet Cobalt Nissan Sentra (2006) Volkswagen Jetta (5-cyl.) Chevrolet Aveo Family cars Most reliable Honda Accord Hybrid Toyota Prius Honda Accord (4-cyl.) Ford Fusion Mercury Milan Least reliable Volkswagen Passat (4-cyl.) Large SUVs Most reliable Toyota Land Cruiser Lexus LX Toyota Sequoia Chevrolet Tahoe GMC Yukon Least reliable Nissan Armada Infiniti QX56 Lincoln Navigator Hummer H2 Note: 2006 denotes the vehicle has been redesigned for the 2007 model year |
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| The 89th Key | Nov 9 2006, 02:07 PM Post #2 |
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I didn't see my Lamborghini listed on there...does that mean it's average? |
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| kenny | Nov 9 2006, 02:09 PM Post #3 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Consumer Reports 2007 Car Preview Ford, GM gain with redesigns Magazine reports American brands' reliability gradually closing in on Japan Christine Tierney / The Detroit News General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co. are improving the reliability of their vehicles as they design new models, but the domestics still lag the leading Japanese brands in overall comparisons, according to the influential Consumer Reports magazine. Redesigned GM models such as the Chevrolet Tahoe and GMC Yukon large sport utility vehicles won high marks for predicted reliability, based on the performance of the prior-model-year vehicles. "This is promising for GM's full line of redesigned full-sized SUVs and pickups, which share the same platform as the Tahoe," the magazine said. The Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan and Lincoln Zephyr midsized cars also had top predicted-reliability ratings, according to Consumer Reports' widely watched annual survey, now on the newsstands. But Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co. still dominate the rankings, while Hyundai Motor Co. showed progress with several "newly recommended" entries such as the new Hyundai Azera and Sonata cars. The results reflect trends seen in other surveys by firms such as J.D. Power and Associates and Strategic Vision -- a gradual narrowing of the gap between Detroit's automakers and the top Japanese brands. Bennie Fowler, vice president of advanced and manufacturing engineering and global quality at Ford, said Consumer Reports' findings confirm Ford's own internal data. "We're seeing a 25 percent reduction in defects over last year," he said. "It's a relentless focus on the details that's making it happen. The results are starting to show." Jim Sanfilippo, executive vice president at consulting firm AMCI Marketing, said Detroit's automakers were close to closing the quality gap with the Japanese. "In terms of quality and dependability, I essentially see parity in the next product cycle," he said. The domestic brands suffer from a lag in the perception of their quality improvements -- a handicap aggravated by the slower pace of their product development and model renewals. According to Consumer Reports, some European brands scored poorly for reliability, but better in customer satisfaction. Volkswagen's diesel Jetta won high marks for customer satisfaction, while the five-cylinder Jetta trailed near the bottom of the predicted-reliability rankings. DaimlerChrysler AG's Mercedes-Benz is still struggling with bugs. "The least reliable vehicle in our survey, the redesigned for 2006 Mercedes-Benz M-Class SUV, is likely to have 10 times as many problems as the Toyota Highlander hybrid, which debuted the same year," Consumer Reports said. Mercedes' R-Class wagon also was rated among the least reliable vehicles in its class. DaimlerChrysler fared poorly in terms of coveted recommendations for its vehicles, gaining only four, while Toyota led with 23 recommended models out of a total 29 models. Of the 47 top-rated vehicles for reliability, 39 were Japanese, six were domestic, one was South Korean and one was European. The survey drew on 1.3 million responses from vehicle owners, the magazine said. In its ranking of customer satisfaction, based on more than 400,000 responses, 26 of the 45 top-rated vehicles were Japanese. Toyota's Prius hybrid was the most satisfying vehicle for the third year, with 92 percent of owners saying they would buy or lease one again. The Chevrolet Corvette followed in second place. European models accounted for 11 of those with top satisfaction ratings. The domestics followed with seven, up from four last year. |
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| kenny | Nov 9 2006, 02:10 PM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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It's because you guys just buy a new one when you hear a funny noise.
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| Jolly | Nov 9 2006, 02:27 PM Post #5 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Here's what I think would make a lot of sense, and appeal to many people: I'd like to see a small truck with an efficient diesel engine. Something along the lines of a Toyota Tacoma, or about that size. It could be offered in different trim levels from work truck to four door. Get me 30mpg, and be able to haul either the family or a load of plywood... |
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| kenny | Nov 9 2006, 02:37 PM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I was surprised to see Jag, BMW, Infinity, Cadillac, Saab, Volvo, Land Rover, Lincoln, Porsche and a million Mercedes rated so poorly. ![]() Shouldn't these be at the top of the lists? These are some of the "nicest" cars. What happened? |
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| Mark | Nov 9 2006, 02:39 PM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I was just going to ask. WTF happened to Mercedes Benz???!!! :angry: |
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| Kincaid | Nov 9 2006, 03:01 PM Post #8 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Yes, and make it w/a long bed and have it look butch. Quasi-military, like the new four door Jeep but with a pick up bed, or like the Dodge Power Wagon concept (with four doors). I'd buy that sucker. Right now, my only choices are a Dodge Dakota, Toyota Tacoma or Nissan Frontier. I don't like the Dodge. |
| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| Mikhailoh | Nov 9 2006, 03:15 PM Post #9 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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I just drove a Nissan Titan for a couple weeks and did not care much for it. I prefer my Dodge Ram. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Klaus | Nov 9 2006, 04:43 PM Post #10 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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This statistic is interesting in that it differs quite a lot from a similar German statistic from the ADAC. The statistics counts the number of breakdowns per year per 1000 cars of different cars built within the last 6 years. The ADAC is usually considered a very serious and unbiased organization.
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| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| Daniel\ | Nov 9 2006, 05:33 PM Post #11 |
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Fulla-Carp
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The internet is great for learning about a vehicle's reliablity. My advice is read as many owner reports/posts as you can. It is possible to predict how reliable a vehicle will be including the specific problems of any vehicle- engine- transmission etc through x thousand miles. It's not random at all. It's great for researching safety issues too. |
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| JBryan | Nov 9 2006, 06:37 PM Post #12 |
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I am the grey one
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Every car I have ever owned has been reliable. Whatever make whatever model. Just lucky that way I guess. |
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| kenny | Nov 9 2006, 07:05 PM Post #13 |
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I agree it is good to read these forums. I do. But how many people post that nothing went wrong? |
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| Daniel\ | Nov 9 2006, 07:30 PM Post #14 |
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Fulla-Carp
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None. It's not about forming a consensus. It's finding a statistically significant number of the same problem (2+) and making a note of it. That's how I see it, anyhoo. |
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