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Okay, we leave the day after Saddam is hung; How bout it?
Topic Started: Nov 9 2006, 06:04 AM (623 Views)
Dave Spelvin
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Mikhailoh
Nov 9 2006, 07:30 AM
I don't think he will ever be hung. Too much international opposition. Oh well.. he's out of power, that's enough.

I hope this is true. I think that the biggest mistake we could make is to execute Saddam. He should be allowed to rot behind bars. The idea that we might help make him a martyr, an inspiration to his people, nauseates me. Put him in a cage, but don't kill him.
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Funny, Bush didn't say this was a war for oil.


He didin't say it because it isn't.
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Nov 9 2006, 10:41 AM

How far do we have to go before we can say it's "stable enough"? Iraq is never going to be a sandy version of Pleasantville. "Staying the course until we ensure safety and prosperity for the Iraqi people" doesn't fly with me, because depending on which definition's used we may never get there.

I don't know, but you sure as hell aren't there yet.

When did US troops leave Germany?
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JBryan
Nov 9 2006, 07:50 AM
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Funny, Bush didn't say this was a war for oil.


He didin't say it because it isn't.

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So, going along with Kenny's thinking.....what next. Lots of people are dying in Afghanistan, so pullout of there too? What do you think would happen with all those Al Quaeda indoctrination schools up on the Pakistan - Afghanistan border?

And Israel should just roll over and submit?

Or are there causes worth fighting for?



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John D'Oh
Nov 9 2006, 07:51 AM

I don't know, but you sure as hell aren't there yet.

When did US troops leave Germany?

:lol:

Never, technically.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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kenny this war is about oil in the sense that it is there to be sold.

hopefully we will be able to ensure that profits from the desirable world commodity will not be used to fuel (pun intended) anti- West sentiment.

that's all - supposing the oil is for American cars is stupid. don't believe it. if you do.. walk to work.


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Nov 9 2006, 10:56 AM
John D'Oh
Nov 9 2006, 07:51 AM

I don't know, but you sure as hell aren't there yet.

When did US troops leave Germany?

:lol:

Never, technically.

And how much oil does Germany produce?
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Nov 9 2006, 08:00 AM
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Nov 9 2006, 10:56 AM
John D'Oh
Nov 9 2006, 07:51 AM

I don't know, but you sure as hell aren't there yet.

When did US troops leave Germany?

:lol:

Never, technically.

And how much oil does Germany produce?

158,700 bbl/day. Ranked 47th in the world.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Nov 9 2006, 11:02 AM
John D'Oh
Nov 9 2006, 08:00 AM
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Nov 9 2006, 10:56 AM
John D'Oh
Nov 9 2006, 07:51 AM

I don't know, but you sure as hell aren't there yet.

When did US troops leave Germany?

:lol:

Never, technically.

And how much oil does Germany produce?

158,700 bbl/day. Ranked 47th in the world.

One of the many reasons they lost WW2.
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Nov 9 2006, 08:04 AM

One of the many reasons they lost WW2.

That and the whole "let's donkeypunch Russia" thing.
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This is a funny thread. :)
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The UK assisted the US. Maybe the UK has a plan.

The American people are upset because of the instability.

That is what we would like to see changing, and don't.

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Nov 9 2006, 11:09 AM
The UK assisted the US. Maybe the UK has a plan.

The American people are upset because of the instability.

That is what we would like to see changing, and don't.

THe UK plan is to screw it all up so badly that America has to send all it's troops over. Then we take Manhattan.
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Mikhailoh
Nov 9 2006, 09:30 AM
I don't think he will ever be hung. Too much international opposition. Oh well.. he's out of power, that's enough.

He should have been hung the week after his capture, or better yet, shot while trying to escape.

He has to be executed for some of the Iraqi people to face reality - Sunni totalitarian rule is gone, and it ain't comin' back.
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Nov 9 2006, 09:40 AM
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Nov 9 2006, 07:32 AM
The objective was to bring peace and stability to this country, and in the process hopefully benefit US interests,

Oh, you mean OIL?

Funny, Bush didn't say this was a war for oil.

Well if that's the case then I agree completely.
Let's stay till the oil flows for the three SUVs in every American driveway of every American 4000 sq ft air conditioned house.
By All Means!

But let's just tell the truth then.
This is a war for oil.

Screw all this morality and democracy BS.
That's all a lie.
Let's be honest.
We are selfish and gluttonous country that will stop at nothing to preserve the American way of life.

So be it.
We are staying till the oil flows.

Might want to get your head out of that turkey's butt, because you can't see and are gasping for air.

It doesn't matter who runs Iraq. The wealth of the country is in petrodollars, and whoever runs the country has to pump the oil. And the oil is sold on the open market.

Now ask yourself, if we could leave a democratic government in Iraq, what will we have accomplished?
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Two things:

Saddam should have been shot dead while crawling out of his hole. Since he wasn't, he should hang.

Second, I cannot believe some of you are still of the opinion that the war was about oil. That's about as silly as it gets.
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Saddam was tried in an Iraqi court of law. His sentence was handed down by an Iraqi court of law, he was given legal representation, and his sentence will be commuted by Iraqi citizens. Saddam's sentencing and execution have piss-all to do with America, England, or the rest of the world. It is an Iraqi internal affair. :chill:
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If he had been shot upon capture the Sunnis might have been less violent, and there would have been no dispute. 'Gee.. he came up with a sidearm and we shot him.' Too f****n' bad.
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Kenny: You might want him hung -- I want him hanged. :lol:
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Mikhailoh
Nov 9 2006, 08:58 AM
If he had been shot upon capture the Sunnis might have been less violent, and there would have been no dispute. 'Gee.. he came up with a sidearm and we shot him.' Too f****n' bad.

LMAO, IT!!

I wouldn't have wasted the bullet. I would have snapped his neck like a carrot and left him lying there for the Iraqi citizenry to spit on and kick, as they walked by.
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"Okay, we leave the day after Saddam is hung, How bout it?"

Sure, fine with me. Let's get our troops out in time so that when the next terror attack comes we can just send some guys in white coats into a lab in Nevada, push a few buttons and reduce Baghdad to a sea of glass.
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Larry
Nov 9 2006, 08:44 AM
Two things:

Saddam should have been shot dead while crawling out of his hole. Since he wasn't, he should hang.

Second, I cannot believe some of you are still of the opinion that the war was about oil. That's about as silly as it gets.

Nope, should have tossed in a grenade to "clear the hole". Nobody would have ever known that he was trying to surrender.
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John D'Oh
Nov 9 2006, 07:32 AM
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Nov 9 2006, 10:14 AM
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Nov 9 2006, 07:01 AM
Daniel
Nov 9 2006, 09:47 AM
But what does this mean?  I mean WTH.  We're there now.  We're paying for it everyday. Like 2 billion dollars a month.  Ain't no civilian (ok maybe one) made any decision about how many troops and what to do.  And look at it now.  What's happening today? This boils down to will?  We're on the verge of winning the war in Iraq?  Please. 

It's getting worse, not better.  We can't occupy Iraq forever, for any reason.

You broke it, you fix it.

Don't you see, we can't.

That isn't clear at this point, IMO. I think the US public need to get it into their heads that this isn't easy, it was never going to be easy, and what's more it is going to take a very long time before things calm down.

The US has a responsibility to the Iraqi people, one which a number of people appear to be suggesting that they should walk away from.

Somebody in here said 'The Iraqi people have shown that they don't deserve democracy'. How nice for you to be able to make this judgement. How nice to be able to have the power to bomb, kill, maim and destroy, and then say 'that's it, we're leaving, you don't deserve us anyway, you haven't been able to clear up the mess that we started.' The Iraqi people have been living under the government of a brutal and bloodthirsty dictator for the last God-knows how many years. Is it any wonder they're struggling to pull their country out of this morass?

The objective of this war was not to depose Saddam. The objective was to bring peace and stability to this country, and in the process hopefully benefit US interests, as well as those of the Middle East and thus the world. You haven't finished yet. You aren't anywhere even close.

This is the single most serious and impressive thing you've ever said here John.

I would like to give you the right to vote.
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John D'Oh
Nov 9 2006, 08:30 AM
Daniel
Nov 9 2006, 11:09 AM
The UK assisted the US.  Maybe the UK has a plan.

The American people are upset because of the instability. 

That is what we would like to see changing, and don't.

THe UK plan is to screw it all up so badly that America has to send all it's troops over. Then we take Manhattan.

Um, I take it back.
Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006.
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