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Hey Lar, here's another Muslim you should kill; . . . Quick! . . . before he kills us
Topic Started: Nov 8 2006, 06:06 PM (1,168 Views)
Ben
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kenny
Nov 9 2006, 12:32 AM
Ben
Nov 8 2006, 09:19 PM
I am curious what "yuckie stuff" you intend to find... but apprehensive. Religion-war-flame-thread is not what I want. I think I know what you would put anyways... entirely OT passages interpreted quite literally and meanings twisted using unfortunate translations to say what anti-Christians want them to say... see the carp at evilbible.com.

Not saying you're anti-Christian, not at all, I just don't think you are going to find stuff like Larry posted in the Bible.

Oh so you rationalize away those OT parts?

Sure, okay, fine, I see.

Who knows, maybe "nice" muslims rationalize away the yuckie parts that Larry picked.
I don't know.
I don't care
It doesn't matter.
It is not my religion.
It is the slippery slope of religion and argument.

Respect others.

If these texts that Larry has quoted can be rationally explained then I am 100% fine with them. I realize that my explanation of OT practices seems far-fetched to you but really when you understand how things in religion change as cultures change drastically over long periods of time it is not. I'll even issue a challenge; the first person to reasonably account for the quotations that Larry posted using Muslim theology wins my thanks and maybe a Three Musketeers candy bar.
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Ben
Nov 8 2006, 10:34 PM
I do not associate with the far left Ned Lamont liberalism. If anything mine is a conservative liberalism at most.

I suppose that is a shade better than a liberal conservatism -- at least you are on the right side of the spectrum... :wink:
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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I forgot to add:

I do respect all others, Muslims, atheists, Hindus, all equally. I do not have to agree with their beliefs or their religion to respect them. I respect them as human beings.
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Nov 9 2006, 12:39 AM
Ben
Nov 8 2006, 10:34 PM
I do not associate with the far left Ned Lamont liberalism. If anything mine is a conservative liberalism at most.

I suppose that is a shade better than a liberal conservatism -- at least you are on the right side of the spectrum... :wink:

:D

wait

:blink:
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Ben
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Well as much as this thread and a couple of others have piqued my interest right now it is midnight and I need to go to bed. Math test tomorrow :woot:

Night kenny and everybody!
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kenny
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Yes Nite Nite.

It's been a very good day for good America. :heart:

I am heartened.
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Larry
Nov 8 2006, 09:17 PM
That's a copout and you know it, Kenny. No offense, but pull your head out of your ass and take an honest look at this. There's nothing in the Bible about having sex with animals, or rubbing your pecker between a baby's legs. Islam was founded by a perverted pedophile, and the religion is a cult of fanatical mind control and violence. It deserves absolutely *no* respect. Its followers are, whether you believe it or not, whether they show their cards or appear harmless right now, on a mission to take over the world in the name of this pedophilic based cult, and your ass will be one of the first to go when they get here.

Yes, and there are some, not just in America but in Iran itself, who have serious doubts whether Islam even qualifies as a “religion” in the same breath with any others they have known; Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Judaism, etc.

- very severe edit –
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Probort? He wouldnt pass muster as a faithful moslem under shari'a. But then, he wasn't a very good Catholic evidently either.
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Larry,Nov 9 2006
02:35 PM
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QUOTE]

From the mouth of Mohammed, as told by the Ayatollah Khomeini, the "pope" of Islam:

"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However he should not penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girls sister."
From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom,
Iran, 1990
Book Title Page/ Cover
Inside Cover of Book
Excerpt: Page [1] | Page [2]
[Mohammad (founder of Islam) The Pedophile]

Kenny, this is a common and accepted practice among muslims called "Thighing". Do you still respect this religion?

"It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would begin
menstruation at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any
father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in
heaven."
From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom,
Iran, 1990 [Mohammad (founder of Islam) The Pedophile]

Kenny, this again is a quote from the words of Mohammed. It is still acceptable practice today. Do you still respect this religion?

" A man can have sex with animals such as sheep¹s, cows, camels and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, however selling the meat to the next door village should be fine."

From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom,
Iran, 1990

The words and teachings of Khomeini. Do you still respect this religion, Kenny?

"If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned."

The little green book, Sayings of Ayatollah Khomeini, Political, Phylosophica, Social and Religious with a special introduction by Clive Irving, ISBN number 0-553-14032-9, page 47

Kenny, do you still respect this religion?



but is this the evil pri*cks interpretation of the Koran like the line:

'if you blow yourself up you will end up in heaven with 70 virgins'?

just what he has written does not make it true, surely these are just rants of a lunatic

do you have any authoritive verification?

iow, you are not quoting the Koran
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just what he has written does not make it true, surely these are just rants of a lunatic


That's the point, dumbass. It *is* the rants of a lunatic. And the lunatic's name was Mohammed.

You're so stupid it hurts.
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Jolly
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kenny
Nov 8 2006, 11:24 PM
Ben
Nov 8 2006, 09:19 PM
I am curious what "yuckie stuff" you intend to find... but apprehensive. Religion-war-flame-thread is not what I want. I think I know what you would put anyways... entirely OT passages interpreted quite literally and meanings twisted using unfortunate translations to say what anti-Christians want them to say... see the carp at evilbible.com.

Not saying you're anti-Christian, not at all, I just don't think you are going to find stuff like Larry posted in the Bible.

Oh, now we have levels of yuckieness?

If the Yuckiness Ratio is 5.48 and above then it is a bad religion?

YR of 5.47 and below and the religion is okay?

Put up or shut up.

What levels of "yuckiness" do you find in Judaism and Christianity?
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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kenny
Nov 9 2006, 12:34 AM
Larry
Nov 8 2006, 09:32 PM
Ben, a day will come when you have an epiphany, and you open your eyes to just how utterly bankrupt modern liberalism is, and you're going to regret ever associating yourself with it.

Yes Larry, eventually we will all be just like you, if we are lucky, smart, paying attention, etc. :rolleyes:

If I turn out like Larry and other right0wingers, I'll commit suicide.
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kenny
HOLY CARP!!!
Jolly
Nov 9 2006, 10:42 AM
kenny
Nov 8 2006, 11:24 PM
Ben
Nov 8 2006, 09:19 PM
I am curious what "yuckie stuff" you intend to find... but apprehensive. Religion-war-flame-thread is not what I want. I think I know what you would put anyways... entirely OT passages interpreted quite literally and meanings twisted using unfortunate translations to say what anti-Christians want them to say... see the carp at evilbible.com.

Not saying you're anti-Christian, not at all, I just don't think you are going to find stuff like Larry posted in the Bible.

Oh, now we have levels of yuckieness?

If the Yuckiness Ratio is 5.48 and above then it is a bad religion?

YR of 5.47 and below and the religion is okay?

Put up or shut up.

What levels of "yuckiness" do you find in Judaism and Christianity?

They are religions.
I don't get into the details.

They are religions so I just respect them all the same.
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JBryan
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Now, *that* is a cop out.
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There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


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Jolly
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kenny
Nov 9 2006, 12:53 PM
Jolly
Nov 9 2006, 10:42 AM
kenny
Nov 8 2006, 11:24 PM
Ben
Nov 8 2006, 09:19 PM
I am curious what "yuckie stuff" you intend to find... but apprehensive. Religion-war-flame-thread is not what I want. I think I know what you would put anyways... entirely OT passages interpreted quite literally and meanings twisted using unfortunate translations to say what anti-Christians want them to say... see the carp at evilbible.com.

Not saying you're anti-Christian, not at all, I just don't think you are going to find stuff like Larry posted in the Bible.

Oh, now we have levels of yuckieness?

If the Yuckiness Ratio is 5.48 and above then it is a bad religion?

YR of 5.47 and below and the religion is okay?

Put up or shut up.

What levels of "yuckiness" do you find in Judaism and Christianity?

They are religions.
I don't get into the details.

They are religions so I just respect them all the same.

That's not an answer.

Being that you belong to none of them, you should be an impartial observer. Is what Larry writing true?

And if it is, do you find analagous scriptures in other religions?
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John D'Oh
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These are swiftly googled. They might not be quite as bad as the muslim ones, but they're still pretty freaky. In my humble opinion, of course.

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When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations … then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. (Deuteronomy 7:1-2)

When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: 12 Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her (Matthew 11:19)

If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, 14 And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: 15 Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: 16 And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her; 17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. 18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him; 19 And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days. 20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: 21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you. (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)

1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord. 2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord.

Deuteronomy 21:1

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

Leviticus 20:10


Those biblical types were a real bundle of laughs. In the unlikely event that I ever get to heaven, I really hope these buggers are on a different floor.
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kenny
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Jolly, I am not in a religion.
I have no expertise.
I am not going to pick them apart and argue for or aginst this or that point.

Why should I?
I'm not in a religion.

I hear other people will do that though if that's how you care to spend your time.

I just am arguing that all religions deserve respect.
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kenny
Nov 9 2006, 01:03 PM
Jolly, I am not in a religion.
I have no expertise.
I am not going to pick them apart and argue for or aginst this or that point.

Why should I?
I'm not in a religion.

I hear other people will do that though if that's how you care to spend your time.

I just am arguing that all religions deserve respect.

Therefore, codified sexual relations with children deserve respect?
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John D'Oh
Nov 9 2006, 02:03 PM
These are swiftly googled. They might not be quite as bad as the muslim ones, but they're still pretty freaky. In my humble opinion, of course.

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When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations … then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. (Deuteronomy 7:1-2)

When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: 12 Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her (Matthew 11:19)

If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, 14 And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: 15 Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: 16 And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her; 17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. 18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him; 19 And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days. 20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: 21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you. (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)

1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord. 2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord.

Deuteronomy 21:1

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

Leviticus 20:10

I think one big difference between these and the ones Larry posted (aside from none of the rise to the level of pedophilia) is that no one in the last 2,000 years or so has been touting them. They are anachronisms. Khomeini was saying the stuff Larry posted not 30 years ago. Christianity seems to have outgrown its anachronisms.
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

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Not all Muslims interpret the Quran the same way. Not all Christians interpret the Bible the same way. Not all Jews the Torah. Not all Muslims enjoy being associated with bin Laden and al Zaqawi just like not all Christians like being associated with Jerry Falwell or Fred Phelps.
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kenny
HOLY CARP!!!
Jolly
Nov 9 2006, 11:07 AM
kenny
Nov 9 2006, 01:03 PM
Jolly, I am not in a religion.
I have no expertise.
I am not going to pick them apart and argue for or aginst this or that point.

Why should I?
I'm not in a religion.

I hear other people will do that though if that's how you care to spend your time.

I just am arguing that all religions deserve respect.

Therefore, codified sexual relations with children deserve respect?

Can't you read?

I respect religions.
I respect laws.

:doh:
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'A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord'

What a stupid rule. Who made that one up? That's even stupider than the rule about eating fish on Fridays. What if I don't like fish?


'He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord'

Talk about adding insult to injury. Some loony cuts off my family jewels and suddenly they relinquish my heavenly parking spot? Well, I can see the logic there, Levi, old man.
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kenny
Nov 9 2006, 11:03 AM
I just am arguing that all religions deserve respect.

No, they most certainly do not. Nor do they have an inalienable right to operate in defiance of secular laws.

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John D'Oh
Nov 9 2006, 11:12 AM
That's even stupider than the rule about eating fish on Fridays. What if I don't like fish?


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Never heard that one before John, could you quote the chapter and verse where that is said?

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bin Sleepin, bin Drinkin, and bin Fightin, on the other hand, were quickly located.
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