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An observation.
Topic Started: Nov 8 2006, 07:20 AM (734 Views)
Jolly
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Last election we had people so distraught that they left the message board (OCR at the time) so they could cuddle with people of like minded politics and wail in their misery.

Maybe we conservatives are cut from sterner cloth...I think almost all of us have checked in here this morning, and many have already posted their thoughts.

Congrats to the libs, they did well last night.

But in the words of Satchel Paige, "Don't look behind, 'cuz whatever's back there may be gaining on you!" :hair:
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Although I do think conservatives in general are "cut from a sterner cloth", I think last night's democrat sweep was more than predicted, so it's not really as much as a shock as when Kerry lost to Bush in '04.
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Jolly
Nov 8 2006, 10:20 AM
Last election we had people so distraught that they left the message board (OCR at the time) so they could cuddle with people of like minded politics and wail in their misery.

Maybe we conservatives are cut from sterner cloth...I think almost all of us have checked in here this morning, and many have already posted their thoughts.

Congrats to the libs, they did well last night.

But in the words of Satchel Paige, "Don't look behind, 'cuz whatever's back there may be gaining on you!" :hair:

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Maybe we conservatives are cut from sterner cloth...I think almost all of us have checked in here this morning, and many have already posted their thoughts.


Is that the sort of sterner cloth that had a certain someone saying "BWAHAHAHAHA" last week, when it looked like things were tightening, and "I knew it all along" this morning? The sort of sterner cloth that avoids making predictions, so that no one can ever call you on how wrong you were?

That sort of sterner cloth?

By the way, there's one very important point that isn't getting emphasized enough in the big news about the Democratic victory ...

The liberals didn't win last night.

Lieberman won. The guy who beat Hostettler in Indiana is socially conservative. Bob Casey, for Chrissakes, is pretty damn conservative on some issues. Webb is a converted Republican. The litany goes on.

In fact, many of the Dem's chosen candidates were far more centrist than the party liberals would have preferred.

This wasn't a victory for the liberals. It was a defeat of the radical right, and that's entirely a different thing.


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Jolly, this was a Democratic victory not a liberal one, and that is fine with me.

Anyway, to your point, it's not so much "sterner cloth" as it is that you guys have all the guns.


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you think so... ?

we don't have the atomic bomb :wink:
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Jolly
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QuirtEvans
Nov 8 2006, 09:29 AM
Jolly
Nov 8 2006, 10:20 AM
Last election we had people so distraught that they left the message board (OCR at the time) so they could cuddle with people of like minded politics and wail in their misery.

Maybe we conservatives are cut from sterner cloth...I think almost all of us have checked in here this morning, and many have already posted their thoughts.

Congrats to the libs, they did well last night.

But in the words of Satchel Paige, "Don't look behind, 'cuz whatever's back there may be gaining on you!"  :hair:

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Maybe we conservatives are cut from sterner cloth...I think almost all of us have checked in here this morning, and many have already posted their thoughts.


Is that the sort of sterner cloth that had a certain someone saying "BWAHAHAHAHA" last week, when it looked like things were tightening, and "I knew it all along" this morning? The sort of sterner cloth that avoids making predictions, so that no one can ever call you on how wrong you were?

That sort of sterner cloth?

By the way, there's one very important point that isn't getting emphasized enough in the big news about the Democratic victory ...

The liberals didn't win last night.

Lieberman won. The guy who beat Hostettler in Indiana is socially conservative. Bob Casey, for Chrissakes, is pretty damn conservative on some issues. Webb is a converted Republican. The litany goes on.

In fact, many of the Dem's chosen candidates were far more centrist than the party liberals would have preferred.

This wasn't a victory for the liberals. It was a defeat of the radical right, and that's entirely a different thing.

Nah, you're just on a Larry hunt.

And, unlike KK, pique, PJ or others in the scenario I referenced, he's already been here in the fray this morning. Perhaps not with his usual bravado, but damn sure not with his tail tucked between his legs.

As to your point about the Dem party moving to the center, mostly that is what it did, although they did elect a few lou-lous. I think DeLay summed it up pretty well, in that he said the Republicans lost rather than the Democrats won.

With Pelosi leading the pack, I think we can expect the shine to wear off of the apple very, very quickly. The Dems were quite successful in making this election a referendum on national issues rather than local ones. In congressional races, that is generally not sustainable...especially in the West, DeLay's seat and in the races in Georgia...I think all of those are in play in 24 months.
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Aqua Letifer
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Nov 8 2006, 07:22 AM
Although I do think conservatives in general are "cut from a sterner cloth",

What do you mean by that, exactly?
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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They aren't pansies.
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Nov 8 2006, 10:34 AM
They aren't pansies.

Yeah, see, that's how I read it too, but I think an attempt at a reasonable explanation would be funny.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Nov 8 2006, 12:30 PM
The 89th Key
Nov 8 2006, 07:22 AM
Although I do think conservatives in general are "cut from a sterner cloth",

What do you mean by that, exactly?

Dems are Linen Cloth and Repubs are Runecloth!

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Kincaid
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Nov 8 2006, 07:22 AM
Although I do think conservatives in general are "cut from a sterner cloth", I think last night's democrat sweep was more than predicted, so it's not really as much as a shock as when Kerry lost to Bush in '04.

Perhaps a better test of conservative cloth would be to see how they would handle President Clinton in '08.

Still, it is Jolly's observation and I agree it is accurate. Some of the lefties on the board could barely function after Bush won in 2000. The right-wingers seem to be moving on. Maybe it is because there are very few strict right-wing conservatives here.
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Aqua Letifer
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Mark
Nov 8 2006, 10:39 AM
Aqua Letifer
Nov 8 2006, 12:30 PM
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Nov 8 2006, 07:22 AM
Although I do think conservatives in general are "cut from a sterner cloth",

What do you mean by that, exactly?

Dems are Linen Cloth and Repubs are Runecloth!

:lol:

If that's true, I can make some pretty sweet 60 gear out of a couple stacks of republicans. :lol:
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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John D'Oh
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By definition those who vote Conservative are more manly men. Even the women are more manly, but in a feminine, attractive kind of way, obviously they're still womanly women, but in a manly kind of way.

Conservatives like to hunt, fish, gamble, drink hard liquor without umbrellas in the glass, they'll spit and swear (but not at women), and generally look a lot like Clint Eastwood just before he painted the entire town red and killed all the bad guys.

Well, except for that Foley bloke, but he was a closet Liberal. Oh, and that other guy that just got caught buying meth.

After this election I foresee a wave of femininity sweeping across the country, all the men will become more womanly, and strangely enough all the women will become manly, but in a hectoring, strident kind of way reminiscent of a fish-wife, or possible Anne Coulter, except obviously she's not a feminist, she just gets tons of money after being empowered by all the womens-libbers she scorns and derides so much. A bit like Boadicea, but without the blue paint or the disembowelling Romans.

My mind keeps wandering....
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kenny
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Nov 8 2006, 10:45 AM


After this election I foresee a wave of femininity sweeping across the country, all the men will become more womanly,

Clearly!!!

Ivory even bought a hybrid!
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kenny
Nov 8 2006, 01:47 PM
John D'Oh
Nov 8 2006, 10:45 AM


After this election I foresee a wave of femininity sweeping across the country, all the men will become more womanly,

Clearly!!!

Ivory even bought a hybrid!

A hybrid is a sign of a manly, but sensitive soul. The kind of guy who goes fishing but throws them back, or shoots trespassers with rock-salt.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Nov 8 2006, 10:55 AM
I shoot trespassers even if they don't have rock salt.

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Nov 8 2006, 01:30 PM
The 89th Key
Nov 8 2006, 07:22 AM
Although I do think conservatives in general are "cut from a sterner cloth",

What do you mean by that, exactly?

I simply haven't seen conservatives whine and complain as much as I've seen liberals whine and complain. Democrats seem to protest more, complain to the government more, cry "I was disenfranchised!" more, et cetera.
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Nov 8 2006, 08:25 AM
Damnit, I'm moving to Canada! :P

Dammit, I'm moving to Malta!!!!
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Aqua Letifer
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Nov 8 2006, 12:53 PM
Aqua Letifer
Nov 8 2006, 01:30 PM
The 89th Key
Nov 8 2006, 07:22 AM
Although I do think conservatives in general are "cut from a sterner cloth",

What do you mean by that, exactly?

I simply haven't seen conservatives whine and complain as much as I've seen liberals whine and complain. Democrats seem to protest more, complain to the government more, cry "I was disenfranchised!" more, et cetera.

So this is based solely on personal observation? If it is, you're using personal experiences you've had with (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt) hundreds of people to make an assumption about a few million?
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Chris Aher
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Nov 8 2006, 04:53 PM

I simply haven't seen conservatives whine and complain as much as I've seen liberals whine and complain. Democrats seem to protest more, complain to the government more, cry "I was disenfranchised!" more, et cetera.

Q: What the difference between a puppy and a liberal?

A: Sooner or later, the puppy stops whining.

Q: Whats the difference between a puppy and a conservative?

A: Sooner or later the puppy stops barking.

:biggrin: :P
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Aqua Letifer
Nov 8 2006, 05:01 PM
The 89th Key
Nov 8 2006, 12:53 PM
Aqua Letifer
Nov 8 2006, 01:30 PM
The 89th Key
Nov 8 2006, 07:22 AM
Although I do think conservatives in general are "cut from a sterner cloth",

What do you mean by that, exactly?

I simply haven't seen conservatives whine and complain as much as I've seen liberals whine and complain. Democrats seem to protest more, complain to the government more, cry "I was disenfranchised!" more, et cetera.

So this is based solely on personal observation? If it is, you're using personal experiences you've had with (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt) hundreds of people to make an assumption about a few million?

It's easy, Aqua, just look at the issues:

Liberals: Save fluffy little animals
Conservatives: Eat fluffy little animals.

Liberals: Would spend $15,000,000,000 to clean up an oil spill covering 10 square feet of wastelands. (In the hopes of saving fluffy little creatures)
Conservatives: Would rip apart and stripmine 15,000,000,000 acres of ideallic woodlands to drill for 10 barrels of oil (plus eat all of the dead fluffy little creatures)

Look at the colors:

Liberal Blue: The nice cute little color of the sweaters they would like to put on fluffy little animals to keep them warm from the global ice age caused by man.
Conservative Red the color of the the blood of the fluffy little creatures we'll cook over open fires on the barren tundra in the Nuclear Wintwer after Iran gets the bomb
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Kincaid
Nov 8 2006, 02:40 PM
The 89th Key
Nov 8 2006, 07:22 AM
Although I do think conservatives in general are "cut from a sterner cloth", I think last night's democrat sweep was more than predicted, so it's not really as much as a shock as when Kerry lost to Bush in '04.

Perhaps a better test of conservative cloth would be to see how they would handle President Clinton in '08.

Still, it is Jolly's observation and I agree it is accurate. Some of the lefties on the board could barely function after Bush won in 2000. The right-wingers seem to be moving on. Maybe it is because there are very few strict right-wing conservatives here.

She has actually become quite the conservative Democrat.

jf

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