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| Kim Jong is sorry | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 20 2006, 05:32 AM (289 Views) | |
| apple | Oct 20 2006, 05:32 AM Post #1 |
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one of the angels
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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=index&cid=716&/%3fu |
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| Frank_W | Oct 20 2006, 05:36 AM Post #2 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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Yeah, he's sorry... *crocodile tears* Not half as sorry as he's going to be. He's realizing, after the fact, that he f*cked up. Too bad, so sad.... |
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| kentcouncil | Oct 20 2006, 07:02 AM Post #3 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall as the Chinese delegation handed Kim's @ss to him. Kim was gambling that the nuclear test would panic the U.S. and send it into bilateral talks with him, thereby strengthening his hand against China. He lost. Instead, it united the world against him, has lead to Japan's rearmament, silenced the anti-American South Korean left, and most importantly p!ssed China right off. He now has placed himself squarely in China's pocket. |
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It was a confusion of ideas between him and one of the lions he was hunting in Kenya that had caused A. B. Spottsworth to make the obituary column. He thought the lion was dead, and the lion thought it wasn't. - P.G. Wodehouse | |
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| Phlebas | Oct 20 2006, 07:12 AM Post #4 |
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Bull-Carp
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He's ronery too.
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Random FML: Today, I was fired by my boss in front of my coworkers. It would have been nice if I could have left the building before they started celebrating. FML The founding of the bulk of the world's nation states post 1914 is based on self-defined nationalisms. The bulk of those national movements involve territory that was ethnically mixed. The foundation of many of those nation states involved population movements in the aftermath. When the only one that is repeatedly held up as unjust and unjustifiable is the Zionist project, the term anti-semitism may very well be appropriate. - P*D | |
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| kentcouncil | Oct 20 2006, 07:14 AM Post #5 |
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Fulla-Carp
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It was a confusion of ideas between him and one of the lions he was hunting in Kenya that had caused A. B. Spottsworth to make the obituary column. He thought the lion was dead, and the lion thought it wasn't. - P.G. Wodehouse | |
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| JBryan | Oct 20 2006, 07:19 AM Post #6 |
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I am the grey one
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I wonder if they will get their trains back now. I think Kim is still playing for time and hoping he can divide the forces arrayed against him. I am sure he was duly chastened by the Chinese but I don't think for a minute that he has been genuinely reformed. He probably hopes this act of contrition will ease the pressure on him and he can go back to alternating between pretending to be intersted in "talks" and issuing naked threats. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Mikhailoh | Oct 20 2006, 07:22 AM Post #7 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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You have to admit that this ol' boy knows how to make the other powers dance though... no pushover, he. Of course, he has a lock on his position, so he can say what he wants, no matter how outrageous, then change it at will. Which is why he needs to go. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| kentcouncil | Oct 20 2006, 07:30 AM Post #8 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I don't think Kim has reformed in any way either, but with his nuclear test he's crossed the threshold, and no act of contrition (and remember, this is the very first time Kim has ever apologized for anything; his cult of personality is based on his infallibility, so you know he's desperate. He wouldn't have done it unless his regime was truly in danger.) is going to placate the Chinese. The games he used to play, and play well, won't work for him now. The time for "talks" is over, and any threat he issues is only going to further alienate both his friends and his enemies. The only reason why the Chinese supported Kim in the past is because they felt they were better off with him than without him. I'm sure they told Kim that this is no longer the case. |
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It was a confusion of ideas between him and one of the lions he was hunting in Kenya that had caused A. B. Spottsworth to make the obituary column. He thought the lion was dead, and the lion thought it wasn't. - P.G. Wodehouse | |
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| John D'Oh | Oct 20 2006, 07:35 AM Post #9 |
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MAMIL
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I think he's toast. It's just a matter of time. |
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| Mikhailoh | Oct 20 2006, 07:37 AM Post #10 |
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And precious little of that. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| JBryan | Oct 20 2006, 07:57 AM Post #11 |
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I am the grey one
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I am sure you are exactly right with regard to the Chinese. I also think Kim will continue to try and do what he has been doing up until now. I don't have much hope for the rest of the world keeping up the pressure on him but I think we can count on the Chinese to hold his feet to the fire. They were always the most critical player having the most direct control over what goes in and out of N. Korea. Kim is not beyond attempting brinksmanship with them. It would mean his demise in the end but we should be concerned about the fallout from that. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| kentcouncil | Oct 20 2006, 08:08 AM Post #12 |
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Fulla-Carp
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An excellent point, one that the Clinton administration never got and that the current Bush administration, to my admitted and profound surprise, got right. China has always had far more influence over N. Korea than the U.S., and despite his pronouncements Kim fears China much more than he fears the U.S. Our insistence on multilateral talks, our efforts not to alienate the Chinese with something as ill-advised as a pre-emptive strike, and our resolve not to repeat the debacle of bilateral talks, knowing that Kim would eventually shoot himself in the foot in his relations with the Chinese, is the signal foreign policy triumph of the Bush administration. |
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It was a confusion of ideas between him and one of the lions he was hunting in Kenya that had caused A. B. Spottsworth to make the obituary column. He thought the lion was dead, and the lion thought it wasn't. - P.G. Wodehouse | |
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| 1hp | Oct 20 2006, 08:19 AM Post #13 |
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I heard an interesting discussion the other day about N. Korea and nuclear weapons. If China stands by and allows N. Korea to move forward with nuclear weapons testing, it is highly likely that Japan will start a program, and they will complete it much faster than N. Korea ever did. More worriesome to China is Taiwan. If China allowed N. Korea to have the nukes, on what platform of the world stage could they complain if Tawain happened to buy some nukes, or start a program (maybe under the guise of nuclear power generation)? Don't think China really wants more countries with nukes on their doorstep. |
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| kentcouncil | Oct 20 2006, 08:32 AM Post #14 |
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Quite true. It was discussed in another thread, but in the extremely unlikely event that Japan decided to develop a nuclear arsenal, it could build one that would not only surpass North Korea's but would surpass China's in a very short time. |
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It was a confusion of ideas between him and one of the lions he was hunting in Kenya that had caused A. B. Spottsworth to make the obituary column. He thought the lion was dead, and the lion thought it wasn't. - P.G. Wodehouse | |
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| Frank_W | Oct 20 2006, 09:27 AM Post #15 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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"Kim Jong" and "naked" should never, but NEVER, be used in the same paragraph!! EVER!!!! *gouging my eyes out with a broken spork* |
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| Mark | Oct 20 2006, 09:50 AM Post #16 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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| George K | Oct 20 2006, 01:24 PM Post #17 |
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Kim Jong-Il Sorry for Nuke Test, Molested as Child by Scott Ott (2006-10-21) — North Korean President Kim Jong-Il today reportedly told Chinese diplomats that he regrets his government’s recent detonation of a nuclear device, and he revealed that he had been molested as a child. “President Kim is sorry, and he takes full responsibility for the atomic bomb test,” said an unnamed Chinese source, “but in the spirit of transparency and vulnerability, he wants people to know about the childhood molestation incident.” The North Korean leader has reportedly checked himself into a rehab center to “heal his inner child and boost his self-esteem,” but a spokesman said he is not ashamed to come out of the closet as a fascist dictator. “A lot people are going to trot out the old myths that fascist dictators are dangerous to society,” said the spokesman. “But short of a few isolated genocides and unprovoked invasions, there’s little evidence to substantiate that claim. It’s time to move past recriminations over the nuclear test, and let bygones be bygones.” |
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| Phlebas | Oct 20 2006, 01:51 PM Post #18 |
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Bull-Carp
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Geez! That one's been taken already. Next thing you know, he'll go into rehab. |
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Random FML: Today, I was fired by my boss in front of my coworkers. It would have been nice if I could have left the building before they started celebrating. FML The founding of the bulk of the world's nation states post 1914 is based on self-defined nationalisms. The bulk of those national movements involve territory that was ethnically mixed. The foundation of many of those nation states involved population movements in the aftermath. When the only one that is repeatedly held up as unjust and unjustifiable is the Zionist project, the term anti-semitism may very well be appropriate. - P*D | |
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