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Mark, I may be another Mac convert!; Vista is a kick in the b@lls.
Topic Started: Oct 16 2006, 10:53 AM (499 Views)
Aqua Letifer
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From ITWire:

We have now reached a point where the strategy of Microsoft is about to deviate from the path that has served it so well. With the release of Vista, Microsoft is about to do two things that are deemed very risky.

First, Microsoft is going to reise prices to a level that many would consider unacceptable. Second, using its Software Protection Progrm, Microsoft is going to scrutinize every single user as if they were a potential pirate, and, if it deems that they are, it will disable their machines until they pay up.


So, they're raising the price for a SH***Y product (I could get into why it's sh***y, but it's a whole other ball of wax), and they assume all their consumers are pirates until proven otherwise.

Microsoft is really ticking me off as of late. :mad2:
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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I started using Macs in 85, and bought my first in 87. I moved to MS in order to do AutoCad for architecture in 95 (the CAD programs on Mac at the time at least were rubbish). But I have no brand loyalty here.

I'll nurse my Windows XP as long as possible, since it is doing everything I need it to do.
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If true, this means I'd buy a new PC now, before Vista is released, so you can still get XP. Once Vista is released, every new PC in the world will have that, instead of XP, and XP will become rapidly unavailable.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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What was your first version of AutoCad, IT?

I learned it on a computer with no hard drive. It had 2 5-1/2" floppy drives and looked a lot like the original version of Pong. I'M OLD
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I first learned computer programming on PUNCH CARDS.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Aqua Letifer
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Brand loyalty used to mean a lot in the 80's and 90's. I first started using Macs, but was frustrated over the limited software packages available for the Mac OS. Nowadays, though, that's much less of an issue.

I'm with you, IT. I'll run my XP system into the ground before I update, and it's a good chance I'll be getting a Mac when I do.

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Though not as bad, Quirt, I'm sad to say that I'm quite sufficient in... FORTRAN 77. :leaving:
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DivaDeb
Oct 16 2006, 12:05 PM
What was your first version of AutoCad, IT?

I learned it on a computer with no hard drive. It had 2 5-1/2" floppy drives and looked a lot like the original version of Pong. I'M OLD

I took a CAD course at ASU in '83, I think it was AutoCad 2.0. Pong is spot on! :lol:

At that time very few architecture firms were anywhere near CAD. We started on Macs in 85 for graphics for presentation, not production. Even by early 90's most firms were still board drafting. I first started using CAD for production in about '93, I think it was ACAD 10 or 11.

I've stuck with ACAD 2004 and see no reason to upgrade.
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QuirtEvans
Oct 16 2006, 12:06 PM
I first learned computer programming on PUNCH CARDS.

Same here. I had one of those green plastic trace templates to make flow charts as well.
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So when is Vista being released?
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Oct 16 2006, 02:15 PM
QuirtEvans
Oct 16 2006, 12:06 PM
I first learned computer programming on PUNCH CARDS.

Same here. I had one of those green plastic trace templates to make flow charts as well.

why oh why am I old enough to understand these things?

I'm so old that I'm better with slide rules than calculators. That's bad. Shoot me.
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Oct 16 2006, 02:05 PM
If true, this means I'd buy a new PC now, before Vista is released, so you can still get XP. Once Vista is released, every new PC in the world will have that, instead of XP, and XP will become rapidly unavailable.

When is Vista being released?

Edit: Oh, I see IT has already asked. . .
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They said it would be released last spring, then this fall, then next spring, and now it looks more like Fall '07.
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Bill Gates is an idiot.

I saw him and another idiot by the name of warren buffet on pbs last night.

Idiots.

Lucky as hell and pretty damned intelligent, but idiots none the less.
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My next computer is definitely a Mac, now that I can use it compatibly with work PC's.

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Oct 16 2006, 03:06 PM
I first learned computer programming on PUNCH CARDS.

Me too. And you had to wait a half hour or more to have your program compile and run, only to go back to the card puncher to debug.

I loved it!

But it was slow.

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Oct 19 2006, 08:27 PM
Bill Gates is an idiot.

I saw him and another idiot by the name of warren buffet on pbs last night.

Idiots.

Lucky as hell and pretty damned intelligent, but idiots none the less.

...and very, very, very rich (if that counts).

jf

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Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter; and with eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations.
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Oct 19 2006, 08:37 PM
Mark
Oct 19 2006, 08:27 PM
Bill Gates is an idiot.

I saw him and another idiot by the name of warren buffet on pbs last night.

Idiots.

Lucky as hell and pretty damned intelligent, but idiots none the less.

...and very, very, very rich (if that counts).

jf

...which puts them in the category of VERY VERY VERY lucky or, perhaps, smart?

jf

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Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter; and with eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations.
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since i could now run my already purchased windows software on a mac, i have no preference between pc and mac anymore.

i did buy this 12-inch dell xps over every other brand because it has a 180 degree rotating camera that allows me to record lectures at school. it's also the size and other configurations i wanted. but the rotating camera thing -- way cool.
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Jack Frost
Oct 19 2006, 07:32 PM
My next computer is definitely a Mac, now that I can use it compatibly with work PC's.

Jack,

There are three Windows solution for the Mac.

1) Boot Camp. Using Apple's setup, you set up part of your hard drive to be a Windows Computer. It does not require reformatting.
Advantage: You boot right into Windows - it acts just as crappy well as any Windows PC
Since you *are* running a PC on an intel chip, speed is good, and you have all the joys of spyward and viruses.
Disadvantage: You have to reboot the computer to run Windows. It's not really cross platform, rather, either - or. Also, you have to purchase Windows to install it.

2) Parallels Workstation: A software solution that runs Windows in a window (heh) while you've booted the Mac OS.
Advantage: No need to reboot the machine. You can copy/paste from Windows to Mac. You can install any OS on it (I have installed and run 2 versions of Linux on mine).
Disadvantage: You have to buy Windows (as above). If you're wanting to run heavily intensive graphic programs (3-D games) it'll be slower. However, for Office apps, it's fine. Another disadvantage is that it'll cost $80.

3) Codeweavers are working on a solution that will run Windows programs from within the Mac OS. Still beta software. Advantage is that you don't need Windows to run it. Disadvantage is that it's new and unproven.
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If I played online games, like Everquest or WoW, I'd probably go PC with Windows.

But, since I don't, I'm thinking my next computer will be a Mac.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Oct 19 2006, 08:09 PM
But, since I don't, I'm thinking my next computer will be a Mac.

Quirt: http://www.macattorney.com/
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Why couldn't I run a Mac OS on my PC.
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Oct 19 2006, 07:42 PM
Why couldn't I run a Mac OS on my PC.

Sounds like a good idea.

Would it run?
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I will stick with XP for as long as I can. I remember what POS Win 98 first edition and WinME were. :puke: I'm working on my BSIT (bachelor of science in information technology) from University of Phoenix Online. I just started a class about databases. We're going to be using MS Access so I'm stuck with a PC for a while. I plan on getting a new computer within the next few months, definately before Vista comes out. BTW - any of yas get the new IE 7? It is a pain in the ass with the tabs. Plus, my security settings got all fux0red up. :veryangry:

Maybe, I'll go with Linux. I do want a Mac. I saw some of the new ones. Sweet! :yesgrin:
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Oct 19 2006, 09:50 PM
JBryan
Oct 19 2006, 07:42 PM
Why couldn't I run a Mac OS on my PC.

Sounds like a good idea.

Would it run?

No, it wouldn't.

Apple has embedded certain "hooks" into the OS to assure that it's running on an Apple-Made computer. There are hacks out there to install the OS onto a PC, but it's unstable, and only a matter of time before Apple disables the hack with every software revistion.

Besides, Macs are just as cheap as PC's now, so there's really no reason...
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