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| Bush's Proposal for Military Tribunals | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 8 2006, 04:35 AM (119 Views) | |
| QuirtEvans | Sep 8 2006, 04:35 AM Post #1 |
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According to the NY Times, Bush's proposal for military tribunals is being criticized strongly by military lawyers and the Republicans in the Senate. An excerpt from the story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/08/washingt...artner=homepage |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Larry | Sep 8 2006, 04:38 AM Post #2 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Military lawyers - talk about a bottleneck..... We don't need them. Fire every damned one of them and get them out of the way. |
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| QuirtEvans | Sep 8 2006, 04:52 AM Post #3 |
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According to the article, McCain and Warner agree with the criticism, too, and are drafting alternatives. Even if you think Graham is just a military lawyer, they are not. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Jolly | Sep 8 2006, 05:02 AM Post #4 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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They can disagree, but politically, the timing is impeccable. |
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| Steve Miller | Sep 8 2006, 05:20 AM Post #5 |
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Impeccable for the Democrats, perhaps. The proposal is generating a national dialog on just what principles America stands for. I'm seeing it in the news, hearing it on the radio and hearing it on the street. The Bush proposal includes allowing the use of evidence obtained via torture and trials where the accused is not allowed to see the evidence against him. I've not seen Mc Cain's version yet, but reports are that it's the same proposal but without these provisions. So far, it looks like Bush's proposal is DOA, both with the people and with the Congress. McCain's proposal has a much better shot. Americans, as a group, prefer that we treat prisoners in the manner in which we would expect others to treat out own soldiers if they are captured. The system is holding. |
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| AlbertaCrude | Sep 8 2006, 05:26 AM Post #6 |
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Bull-Carp
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The US would not be the first. Although we have abolished the death penalty, Canada has such a provision in place. As I believe do Britain and Australia. We are all civilized countries. It is a good proposal. |
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| Rick Zimmer | Sep 8 2006, 05:49 AM Post #7 |
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This is what gives me great hope for the United States and is what makes me proud to be an American. As depressed and angry as I get about Bush and his concerted effort to undermine the Constitution and the principles upon which our country function, we are seeing that the sytem DOES work -- and it looks like it is working damned well. It may be slow. It may take actions by the courts in one situation, the Congress in another, the people in another, but slowly we are seeing the damage caused by Bush being undone. We don't know if all of it will be undone and I expect some of the authroitarian aspects of Bush's Presidency will remain as his legacy. But overall, the most perverse distortions he has implemented will be eliminated -- although it may take some time. The forces of freedom and human dignity are hard to kill. |
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| Jolly | Sep 8 2006, 06:09 AM Post #8 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Here's my take on the politics... This issue refocuses the country on the War on Terror. It will be the dominate topic of debate for the next 60 days, as the bills are fought over in Congress. It moves the Dems off of their major strategy, which is to pound the war in Iraq. they will have to be very careful in this election atmosphere to not appear weak on terrorists. The President has reframed the national debate from the bully pulpit. |
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| QuirtEvans | Sep 8 2006, 06:56 AM Post #9 |
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He's also allowed the Democrats to paint him and the House Republicans as the second coming of the Spanish Inquisition, with McCain and Warner and Graham as their shield against "weak on terror" attacks. Particularly interesting, given how the House is at risk. We'll have to see how that plays out. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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